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I called the dealer to get prices on the HID Bulbs. He said the "ignitors" are $260 each.
Is there any where else where theses bulbs can be purchased cheaper??

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Just the bulbs? You can get a pair of D2R (if you have projectors) bulbs from ebay for under $100.

Now thats assuming you have projectors headlamps, and assuming all you need are the bulbs. Balasts would be a different thing.

If just the bulb is burned out, I recomend Philips bulbs rated at 4300k (Which is OEM standard rating for all USDM cars with HID's.
 

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my lights arent burned out yet, I just do not like the dull yellow look. How do I know if i have HID in the first place?

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Ok, Hang on a sec. Do you have a 99 STS? If so, there wasn't even an option for HID lighting.

So, you're just looking for Whiter/Bluer bulbs, correct?

If thats the case, you can get bulbs for much cheaper.

I would search on Ebay for "9006 bulb"

Some companies I've heard good things about:

PIAA
HELLA
SYLVANIA (OEM) -Search for Silver Stars
NOKYA (These would give you the bluest tint I believe)
 

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LuborK said:
How much possible is simply pull out halogen lamps assy and mount in 2002 STS HID assy into 98 STS?
I belive they should swap out perfectly. the only thing is, you'd have you buy the whole headlamp assemblyso thats the headlight housing, new bulbs, possibly new wiring, ballasts and bulbs. this could be expensive.
 

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RMSLS02 said:
Ok, Hang on a sec. Do you have a 99 STS? If so, there wasn't even an option for HID lighting.

So, you're just looking for Whiter/Bluer bulbs, correct?

If thats the case, you can get bulbs for much cheaper.

I would search on Ebay for "9006 bulb"

Some companies I've heard good things about:

PIAA
HELLA
SYLVANIA (OEM) -Search for Silver Stars
NOKYA (These would give you the bluest tint I believe)

Also luminicsbulbs.com have the bluest bulb that i could find for the 9006 if you check out their pure blue i think you should be satisfied and price is unbeatable
 

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A blue bulb won't give you the most light though. It may look brighter, but going through the filter to make it blue will cut down on the amount of light that actually makes it out of the bulb.

The HID headlamp assemblies from a newer Seville will fit, but they are veery expensive, because they include the bulb and ballast assembly. If your really looking for HID's, I would suggest a good aftermarket company. They are easy to install, and are very reliable, in most cases more reliable than OEM equipment. That what I did on my 1998 STS. Also, if you do go for HID's, they are different temperature ratings, depending on how much light you want, and what kind of color. The coolest bulbs (i.e. 4-5000 degrees kelvin) will produce the most actual light output, and will be very white. The higher you go in temperature (i.e.7-8000 degrees kelvin) the bulbs will produce a blue light, with a little less intensity than the cooler bulbs. At the end of the scale (i.e. 12-14000 degrees kelvin) the bulbs are now producing purlpe light, and have much less intensity than their cooler counterparts.
 

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A blue bulb won't give you the most light though. It may look brighter, but going through the filter to make it blue will cut down on the amount of light that actually makes it out of the bulb.

The HID headlamp assemblies from a newer Seville will fit, but they are veery expensive, because they include the bulb and ballast assembly. If your really looking for HID's, I would suggest a good aftermarket company. They are easy to install, and are very reliable, in most cases more reliable than OEM equipment. That what I did on my 1998 STS. Also, if you do go for HID's, they are different temperature ratings, depending on how much light you want, and what kind of color. The coolest bulbs (i.e. 4-5000 degrees kelvin) will produce the most actual light output, and will be very white. The higher you go in temperature (i.e.7-8000 degrees kelvin) the bulbs will produce a blue light, with a little less intensity than the cooler bulbs. At the end of the scale (i.e. 12-14000 degrees kelvin) the bulbs are now producing purlpe light, and have much less intensity than their cooler counterparts.

What Temp did you get? I got a Gen III Slim Balast Kit from Philips at 6000k
 

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Well, thanks for the replies fellas. I actually bought the silverstars (whitest) to replace my headlights, and foglights. They are really really white. However, they do not have much of any blue tint, just enough to make the road appear slightly blue. But, they produce lots more light than my previous bulbs. total cost for 2 headlights and 2 foglights= $70. labor=$0 + 2 hours. That damn underbody panel has those annoying plastic screws. Anyways, I am satisfied for now.


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What Temp did you get? I got a Gen III Slim Balast Kit from Philips at 6000k

I can't really remember, but I think they were around the 4300k area. I never really liked the blue HID's, and I also wanted the most light output possible, which is why I went with one of the coldest temp bulbs I could find. The kit I got (about 3 years ago now) had the older gen Philips ballast (shaped like a box..hehe) and Philips bulbs. Looking at the site I got them from now, they are using the gen 4 "ultra" slim philips ballast. They make mine look like I've got two refrigerators under my hood.

edit: It seems as though they will be selling the new ballasts individually. I think I might have to get two of the new ones, and free up some space under the hood..hehe.
 

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It's a little late but if anyone is interested, EuroLights.com has Xenon-charged bulbs available. You'd have to contact them directly to find out if they have your application.

"EL-S/EuroLights(tm) Xenon-Charged™ bulbs are designed for those who are after the the highest possible performance and absolute closest output color to HID/Xenon lighting systems. These bulbs offer vastly increased brightness over standard bulbs and are for the enthusiast who would like the latest in headlight technology"





 

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1998-2001 Sevilles did not have High Intensity Discharge bulbs standard. The benefit of having HID bulbs is that you get much bright, and more intense light than you can with halogen bulbs, because of how they work. Halogen bulbs use a conventional filiment like that of an incandescent bulb, but are filled with gas to aid in producing bright more intense light. HID bulbs do not have a filiment, but rather a chamber with two electrodes on either side, filled with Xenon gas, and a particular kind of sodium salt. The ballast sends a couple thousand volts across the two electrodes in the bulbs, energizing the Xenon gas and producing a bright arc across the inside of the chamber. This arc of electricity produced by the reaction of the voltage energizing the atoms of Xenon gas, is what produces the light (not so different from how a flourescent bulb works). This reaction also produces UV light, which helps illuminate reflective road signs much further down the road, than a halogen bulb ever could.
 

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I installed Silverstar High Performance bulbs on my ETC and they kick butt.
The ones you need are # 9006ST for the low beam, and # 9005ST for the high beams. They make such a difference!

They don't make that GOOFY blue light, just the whitest light possible with your stock wiring.

I paid something like $45.00 on eBay for the low beams. (With shipping, I think.)
Let us know what you do.
Later.
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/HighPerformance/Silverstar/default.htm

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/LampReplacementGuide/]
 
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