With anti-icing agents in the water is it really needed?:hmm:
Heated Windshield Washer Fluid
Is there any chance that we might see a heated washer fluid option or an aftermarket add-on? I see that the buicks have it.
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It seems odd that Buick would have that feature before Cadillac or at least that the entire Cadillac line up would get that feature before it moved onto a different brand.
GM does some strange things at times. Pontiac and Buick got Super Chargers but Cadillac didn't.Tyler80 said:It seems odd that Buick would have that feature before Cadillac or at least that the entire Cadillac line up would get that feature before it moved onto a different brand.
The new DTS has it and is on the same platform as the lucerene, so I would guess that's why both thoose cars have it and not other caddy's
I always thought you ran the risk of cracking your windshield if you added warm warter to an iced windshield...
BTW, I finally got to see the "ICE" message on my caddy...sweet...
BTW, I finally got to see the "ICE" message on my caddy...sweet...
Ulises said:I always thought you ran the risk of cracking your windshield if you added warm warter to an iced windshield...quote]
It's tempered glass and it withstands a lot..even boiling water.
I learn something new everyday here...
Caddy and buick wouldn't have put it on the cars if it were gonna crack windshields. Like Robert said they're tempered and can withstand lots of extreme temperatures. I'm sure lots of testing was done with multiple low-temp high-temp exposures before they decided to run with it.
It's a cool gizmo, but I don't think it will be aftermarket availible
It's a cool gizmo, but I don't think it will be aftermarket availible
Cool...
you know i feel pretty worthless on this forum...I feel like I contribute nothing...:crying2:
I do learn a great deal...but I cann't really give much...
Maybe I can provide you guys with music to listen to while you drive those Caddy's??? Anyone like trance/house/vocal trance? I've been djing for roughly 9 years now :cool2: . It's the least I can do.
you know i feel pretty worthless on this forum...I feel like I contribute nothing...:crying2:
I do learn a great deal...but I cann't really give much...
Maybe I can provide you guys with music to listen to while you drive those Caddy's??? Anyone like trance/house/vocal trance? I've been djing for roughly 9 years now :cool2: . It's the least I can do.
Yep '06 DTS and Lucerne have it.
The temperature is regulated and it's only heated when needed, not all the time.
You cannot throw boiling water on your windshield if there is ice on it, the glass will "explode". You can use water that is hot to the touch but boiling water is 212 degrees, tempered or not the glass cannot withstand that quick of a temperature shift.
You can use cold water, it still has to get to 32 degrees before it will freeze and that takes time.
The temperature is regulated and it's only heated when needed, not all the time.
You cannot throw boiling water on your windshield if there is ice on it, the glass will "explode". You can use water that is hot to the touch but boiling water is 212 degrees, tempered or not the glass cannot withstand that quick of a temperature shift.
You can use cold water, it still has to get to 32 degrees before it will freeze and that takes time.
Heated Washer System Operation
The intent of the Heated Washer Fluid Feature is to automatically clear the windshield of snow or ice upon activation. The system may also be used to improve the bug clearing performance of the wash feature under summer driving conditions. Approximately 5 seconds after the ignition is turned on the washer solvent heater assembly will enter standby mode. During standby mode the heater assembly turns on 1 of the 3 heater elements to maintain a solvent temperature of 56°C (132°F). When the heated wash switch is pressed, the driver information center (DIC) will display the HEATING WASH FLUID WASH WIPES PENDING message for 2 seconds and the heater assembly heats the wash fluid to approximately 70°C (160°F). The total duration of the initial heat up cycle may take up to 45 seconds. Once the proper temperature is reached, the heater assembly will request the body control module (BCM) to activate the windshield wash cycle. The heater assembly will maintain an active wash request until the wash fluid temperature drops to 40° C when the wash cycle request will be de-activated allowing the wash fluid to heat up again. The fluid heating and wash application will automatically be repeated 3 more times. Upon completion of the 4 wash cycles, the system will transition to off. The automatic heated wash mode may be terminated at any time by pressing the heated washer fluid switch. The DIC will then display the HEATED WASHER FLUID WASHER SYSTEM OFF message.
Hahaha, everyone here is glad to help I'm sure! Trance/House/Vocal Trance, Custom mixes and stuff? I Like all kinds of musicUlises said:Cool...
you know i feel pretty worthless on this forum...I feel like I contribute nothing...:crying2:
I do learn a great deal...but I cann't really give much...
Maybe I can provide you guys with music to listen to while you drive those Caddy's??? Anyone like trance/house/vocal trance? I've been djing for roughly 9 years now :cool2: . It's the least I can do.
That was the most informative post on the system I have ever read. It's great having ewill3rd around, he has all the tech books at the shop lol :thumbsup:ewill3rd said:Yep '06 DTS and Lucerne have it.
The temperature is regulated and it's only heated when needed, not all the time.
As dumb as I can be..many year ago I put Boiling water from a tea kettle on to my iced windshield. It did not explode. I think that is a myth.ewill3rd said:Yep '06 DTS and Lucerne have it.
The temperature is regulated and it's only heated when needed, not all the time.
You cannot throw boiling water on your windshield if there is ice on it, the glass will "explode". You can use water that is hot to the touch but boiling water is 212 degrees, tempered or not the glass cannot withstand that quick of a temperature shift.
You can use cold water, it still has to get to 32 degrees before it will freeze and that takes time.
Actually, all automotive glass except the front is tempered. Tempered glass will shatter into tiny shards when 'cracked'. The windshield is layered safety glass with a thin plastic coating to keep it together in one piece in an accident.
I've watched a windshield crack start and grow across the entire windshield in a matter of minutes, simply from turning on the defrost to max heat, with ice still below the windshield wipers. The windshield glass doesn't like that kind of temperature differential.
Heated washer fluid sounds like a good idea, but I find that when I squirt washer fluid below freezing, and it finally does freeze in a thin layer from the wipers, it fogs the windshield worse that if I had left it alone.
I've watched a windshield crack start and grow across the entire windshield in a matter of minutes, simply from turning on the defrost to max heat, with ice still below the windshield wipers. The windshield glass doesn't like that kind of temperature differential.
Heated washer fluid sounds like a good idea, but I find that when I squirt washer fluid below freezing, and it finally does freeze in a thin layer from the wipers, it fogs the windshield worse that if I had left it alone.
Not to mention that warmer water freezes faster. So therefore, when you leave the house in the morning in the winter time and spray the windshield you get a ice glaze much faster.Ulises said:I always thought you ran the risk of cracking your windshield if you added warm warter to an iced windshield...
BTW, I finally got to see the "ICE" message on my caddy...sweet...
great!i'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE BUT WHAT IS THE SCIENCE THAT CAUSES THAT?collapsed said:Not to mention that warmer water freezes faster. So therefore, when you leave the house in the morning in the winter time and spray the windshield you get a ice glaze much faster.
all kinds...here is a sample.AsAkAs said:Trance/House/Vocal Trance, Custom mixes and stuff? I Like all kinds of music
I'm sure this is the wrong thread but...maybe while you are waiting for your ice to melt on your windshield, you can listen to some tunes...
this link is only temp...and it only last a couple of days...it should be a 41min mix...if it's not then something happen with the upload.
enjoy :thumbsup:
http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2R693PD626ZFN1L4HZY816NDR4
The automatic car washes are open here in Fairbanks, Alaska year around. You drive in with an ice encrusted car at -25F or colder and it is hit with a blast of HOT! water to clear it off. I have never heard of windows cracking or shattering. Verdict! Urban Myth!
I've never seen it with hot water, but I've personally experienced (and watched) cracking with hot defrost air on an ice covered windshield on three separate cars/trucks that I've owned. I'm sure it happens only when a stress point is present (stone chip). Heated windshield washer fluid will be no where near the boiling point of water, and is likely closer to chilled water in temperature, though. You would think it would be included as an option whenever an engine block heater is offered.
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