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Guys and Ladies,

I cringe to hear that one of our kind has had a problem with one of our cars. I was ready to buy my 3rd Acura TL, when they came out with that 4th Gen car with the ugly terrapin beak. I wanted a car that was beautiful not one with a big old ugly beak! (The new 2012 TL is much improved, btw)

We ordered our CTS just the way we wanted it, and so far it is a fine car. Some things are better than the TL and some things are not, that is what happens any time you change brands. (Navi on an Acura is heaven to use/ Bluetooth on a Caddy is much better than an Acura's)

Because I used to have a TL, I trolled the site mining information like I now do at the Cadillac site. Now we all know that Honda makes a wonderfully tight, reliable car. Last month I was reading about a months old TL that had a crack in the block, it needed a new engine, the car had under 8,000 miles I believe.

Here are some complaints about quality on the Acura forum.....see if they aren't as ticked off as we are about their flaws:
http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=782374

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=789949

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=786595

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=788376

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749941

My point is not to slam Acuras.....they are great, it is just to show you that all cars have some flaws. Why doesn't CR Magazine notice these flaws rather they notice all of ours?

Richard
 

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Sure, all automobiles have problems from time to time - a truism, but so what? The relevant question is which makes and models distinquish themselves by having relatively more/less problems than the average?

With the world's largest database, a minimum of 100 respondents, typically 1000s, for each included vehicle model, Consumer Reports Annual Reliability Survey trumps the credibility of anecdotal reports, pro or con, posted on internet car forums - in my opinion.

FWIW, here's another view of Consumer Reports from Design News, "the leading technical resource providing technology news, opinion, analysis, end-user examples and tutorials for engineers and engineering managers:"

 

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Great find, 928S; really appreciate your posting the link.

I won't buy a bar of soap without checking what CR says; though I don't always follow its advice.

I know CR knocked the early 350Zs but mine performed perfectly & was great fun.

I've been a CR reader since the 50s and a subscriber since 1969.
 

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I'll agree that they test lots of cars, but I noticed that there is quite a "hole" in the models that I'm interested in.

Moreover, if you have had any long term experience with that magazine, what they love this year, they turn on next year leaving you fending for yourself with an expensive purchase that rated 10th behind whatever. I find this to be the case with lots of the things that they survey not just cars. If you were looking for an appliance as I'd mentioned before, their "recommended purchase" was totally panned for reliability by many testimonials....thank goodness I read those!

For this reason, they're are just another "tool in my toolbox". I'm still not going to take their exclusive opinion to the bank.......they have let me down repeatedly.

Richard
 
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