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Got pulled over yesterday by several CHP cars on my way back from Big Bear. One Cop said he heard the exhaust and whine of the supercharger close to a minute before he saw me flying down the road. I got clocked at 90 after slamming the brakes as my Escort 8300's KA went crazy. They said that no matter what, they were giving me a speeding ticket, but if I wanted to get out of the reckless driving ticket, they wanted to search my car. They spend about 15 minutes going through the V, finding nothing.

I have no idea what I'm gonna do to get out of this ticket. A friend of mine said that there is a Second Stage driving school I can go to that is 12 hours long.
 

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blackonblackonblack said:
They said that no matter what, they were giving me a speeding ticket, but if I wanted to get out of the reckless driving ticket, they wanted to search my car.
Reading that makes my blood boil......
 

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You could have outrun the Crown Vic,:getaway: but not the radio..:duck: (or the TV helicopter, but we would have been cheering you on!) :woohoo: the downside is that in LA they would have :horse:
 

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The chip was tailgating me after I saw him and he caught up to me, I was thinking of slamming on my E-brake and making him hit me, cause I knew how F*%$ed I was.
 

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What a drag.

The CHP are real a-holes (at least the ones that I had to deal with).:mad:

However, I think you got off pretty easy if they dropped a reckless for a search. They can search anyway as you gave them PC (probable cause).

There use to be a limit on how fast you could be over the posted that qualified one for traffic school or a court appearance.

Good luck!
 

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Pretty much if a chippy gets out of the car, somebodies gettin' a ticket.
 

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I guess I could have outrun him.... But they have a lot of friends. So I can just go to regular traffic school since there is no limit anymore?
 

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Didn't you post those beautiful pictures of your holiday detail. Sorry to hear about the ticket, but I think its inevital (sp). I think we all sign up for tickets when we bought this car.
 

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It kinda makes you wonder why it's perfectly legal to sell a car that does 165mph unmodified, but you'll get ticketed for doing over 65mph. Here in VA it's automatic wreckless for anything over 80mph. Personally, I wouldn't be thinking of how to get out of the 'ticket', but rather be thankful that they dropped the wreckless. If one get's caught red-handed (with a radar detector no less) doing over 90, I don't see what there is to 'get out of'. Count yourself lucky. There will likely be more tickets, driving a car like the V. I can only imagine how hard it is to resist and keep it to 'legal limits'.
 

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What has me wondering is, how did they know you were supercharged? Obviously the exhaust is a given. However, the supercharger will only be identified by sound if you know about it. Did you tell them about the supercharger or did they tell you they knew the whine was a SC?

Seriously though, black cadillac, black tint, and black 20" wheels makes for probable cause without speeding. I feel uncomfortable driving around at night. Sometimes when I decide to take the V to the gym and I go around 9pm, it feels like cop is waiting to pull me over.

I say go to traffic school and pay the fine. Let's keep them hatin' cops employed.
 

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I've had two reckless reduced to failure to observe highway sign because I went to court. In VA that's nothing short of a miracle. Had it not been for a BS ticket I received about 8 months ago for 51mph in a 35mph zone I'd actually qualify for safe driver. :banghead:

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS go to court. I've never seen a ticket not get reduced for a court appearance. My last name begins with V and most dockets are alphabetical. So I get to sit through 50-75 defendants before I get to go. It's human theater. Always entertaining. :cookoo:
 

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blackonblackonblack said:
They said that no matter what, they were giving me a speeding ticket, but if I wanted to get out of the reckless driving ticket, they wanted to search my car. They spend about 15 minutes going through the V, finding nothing.
I find this hard to believe. First, you have to have atleast three moving violations to even be considered for reckless driving by CHP standards. Sorry but doing 90 is not willfull or wanton disregard for the safety of persons. Second I call bullshit on the search. CHP has not been allowed to conduct consent searches for about 5 years now. That was a consent search. :wtf: If its true then I would talk to the Office and file a complaint.
 

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roadracerx72 said:
First, you have to have at least three moving violations to even be considered for reckless driving by CHP standards.
Rock:

1) "flying down the road" (without a pilot's license)
2) "I got clocked at 90"
3) "after slamming the brakes"

:stirpot: :poke:
 

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OldRoadDawg said:
Rock:

1) "flying down the road" (without a pilot's license)
2) "I got clocked at 90"
3) "after slamming the brakes"

:stirpot: :poke:
I guess that would be three then... :bang2:
 

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OldRoadDawg said:
(cavities?)

Those suckas never cut anyone some slack!
As the OldRoadDawg said: "them suckas never cut anyone any slack."

I would take Ody's advice and say that your pretty damn lucky they didn't write you for "reckless driving or reckless endangerment" or whatever the traffic statute is in California.

In Maryland; you probably would have gotten the "chauffer driven ride" back to the "pokey" by a nicely uniformed gentlemen, a nice pair of new "silver bracelets" to wear for the ride back ( they would only be on loan and you would have to return them) and then finally perhaps a "photograph session" with the in-house photographer. You always want to make sure that you dress well for these unexpected occassions!

And then of course there would have been a huge impound bill the next day to pick up the V.

In all seriousness; depending on your age, driving record and experience; my next investment would be in a very well qualifed criminal traffic attorney.

You DO NOT want to show up in any court without legal representation if you care to show the court/judge that you have any concern or care for maintaining a "clean driving record".

Typically, most judges have a tendancy in allot of cases to look more favorably upon defendants who "show the court" that they care about there driving record by "paying up front" for an attorney ( you've demonstrated to the court that you have paid the first penalty financially) and judges are more "open" to an attorney's plea for "probation before judgement.

Typically; if that is the case, your best bet will be to hope to walk away from this incident with a "stiff fine" and perhaps a punitive slap for the "isolated infraction" (driving school) and "probation before judgement."

( Probation before judgement simply means that the judge/court does not find you guilty or not guilty of the traffic violation). Instead you are put on "traffic probation" for a period of time and no infraction points are reported by the court to the California Department of Motor Vehicles when you leave the courtroom that day.

This period of "probation before judgement" usually lasts for a year which means that as long as you do not show up in that Judge's courtroom for another moving violation during that year of probation; that 90mph ticket is completely stricken from the court's record as if was never written by the Police Officer.

Your objective is to walk out of that courtroom on that day with no violation points or infractions being reported by the Court to the California Department of Motor Vehicles; regardless of the cost.

Bottom line: hire a damn good traffic lawyer NOW. If you have a clean and experienced driving record and were doing 25 to 30 over the posted speed limit; I would expect a hefty fine to fill the California treasury coffers by the Judge (it is a business afterall; regardless of what anyone will tell you) and ask your attorney to plead for "probation before judgement".

VERY IMPORTANT:


Write down everything that occurred and EVERYTHING that you said to the police officer word for word right now while it is fresh in your memory. I will assure you that the arresting/traffic officer wrote a narrative of your conversation at the time of the incident and it "will come up in court" when the Judge questions the police officer. You DO NOT want your attorney to be caught off guard and not prepared to answer a question that he does not already know the answer to. (Law school 101: Introduction to criminal litigation & procedure)

For example: when stopped; you were courteous to the officer and allowed him without hesitation to search the vehicle when asked. You were polite and compliant at all times, etc etc. All of these things will work in your favor and you will want to communicate these things to your attorney as your attorney will question the officer in court by asking the officer: "During the traffic stop Officer Smith; was Mr. Jones polite and courteous at all times and fully compliant when you asked if you could search his vehicle?"

When the judge hears that you treated one of "his guys" with respect; that stuff goes along way to getting PBJ.

BlackonBlackonBlack:

In all seriosness, you DO NOT want to even attempt to demean a Police Officer in front of a judge. No Judge in this country will stand for it for a moment and will crack your head open like a watermelon! I'm not trying to lecture from a soapbox as I've had my own fair share of moving violations over the last 30 years. Hell, statistically; even the very best drivers will average one moving violation every 10 years and Judges are aware of that.

And believe it or not; Judges are not out to "trash" motorists driving records. With regard to the Police Officers; cut them some slack. They like you have a job to do and their's is to "protect the public safety". And sometimes that means getting a traffic ticket; which is why there is a court system to be heard. Just think of how many of these guys gave their lives on September 11'th for people that they did not even know. And who are you going to call one evening when someone is attempting to steal you CTSV? I bet it won't be another V owner or your best friend; but a cop who is going to put his life and the welfare of his/her family on the line for your car.

Hire and retain a good traffic attorney now; wright a detailed narrative of the events of that evening to share with you lawyer and good luck to you when you appear in court.

Pete Raimondi

ps: Joke of the Day: What was the very first thing that went through that fly's mind when he splattered your windshield at 90 mph?

Answer: I bet it was his ass!
 
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