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Has anybody looked into doing this? http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2004/158973-gauges-nav-display.html

I've been following that thread in the cts-v 1 thread... and i think that would be an awesome mod! These guys are having issues with an input, but unless i'm mistaken we could just plug in into the center console inputs... all we'd need is the lockpick to allow video to play while driving... am i wrong?

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Ben.Peterson said:
... all we'd need is the lockpick to allow video to play while driving... am i wrong?

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...There in lies your problem..."you ain't addn' nothin' to the display of an STS"!...The only was any display can be added is through the XM radio plug and it is quite complex and rarely works out...good fortune to workin' that out.
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I have the lockpick installed on mine and the center console video port works just fine while driving. I will order one now and let you know how it works.
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Here are some screen shots from their website...






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That IS super cool, if it works out. Only about half the stuff we try in our accesories division works as advertised on the STS.
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ssstealth said:
I have the lockpick installed on mine and the center console video port works just fine while driving. I will order one now and let you know how it works.
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That is AWESOME! I can't wait to hear back! I was thinking of mounting it in the trunk... and then running the cables to the center console, as it looks too big to mount anywhere else nicely :D. Where did you get your lockpick? I've been trying to find one for mine (admittably i haven't been looking too hard), but i've found that the 06 is harder to find them for.

Looking forward to your input!
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Looks cool. But can't see spending $650 for essentially the same info dashhawk or a similar product can give you.
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Bee iLL said:
Looks cool. But can't see spending $650 for essentially the same info dashhawk or a similar product can give you.
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I guess the real draw here is that it displays on the dash screen and operates via the same touch screen. The non-add-on look really ups the cool factor IMHO.

I placed the order last night and hope to have it in hand next week... report to follow.

Ben, see member "Tomm" for the 2006 lockpick. He makes a GPS disable switch that allows the 07-09 lockpick to work. A quick search will lead you to him.
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I think the extra money is justified with the integration into our lcd screen. I personally think that a dashhawk or similar would look rediculous mounted to the dash of an STS-V.... Reminds me of mounting a HUGE tach up there. That's just my opinion though.

My concern would be making sure that the other functions can be accessed easily, and that this will not interrupt the other functions... ie, playing music at the same time.

ssstealth: Thank you for the info... i'll track him down, and hopefully he still has them!
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I don't think you can use AUX and the radio/CD at the same time. But then I've only used AUX twice.
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I don't think you can use AUX and the radio/CD at the same time. But then I've only used AUX twice.
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Ding ding ding... You are correct. It would be similar to using an MP3 player or other input device. The radio will only show/play the input from the AUX device when selected. Dashhawk might not look as nice, but at least you can mount it in an easily viewable area while driving... There is a reason they don't let you watch movies while driving... Looking down and to the right at a screen is not safe, especially if you are doing a fast and furious. Cool looking yes, but I just don't see how it would be practical.
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This is simple also. You are only hooking up the gauges through the video port. The remaining audio ports are then hooked up to the MP3/Ipod player and music returns. I actually use a Sirius S50 in those ports now and the sound quality is great. You are correct though that the internal XM/AM/FM bands would not be available at the same time as guages.

I think this is doable and WAY ahead of what the CTS-V gang is going through trying to make this work.
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I think that is a good 'quick fix'... however, if we figured out a way to connect a switch to change the input to the lcd only... then we could possibly have full functionality of the unit while displaying this as well. I think it would be worth it even if you can only use the audio device connected to the aux ports... but something about the voice nav still alerting you when you need to turn sounds pretty cool to me. Eventually you could build an algo-based switch as well... to switch to the gauges when the car is put into competition mode... or possibly switch anytime the car is 3/4 throttle and over... That's what i like about it.. the possiblities are nearly endless :D.

I think the first step for me will me to allow ssstealth to see if there are any issues (sorry ssstealth, but you're the guinne pig on this one)... then run it with the aux audio only. By then the cts-v guys might possibly have the fix to switch the lcd input... or if not i would be interested in looking into how to do it... from there it would be to find somebody to build the algo-based switch for the input... and so on and so on... lol.

Sorry for the outburst... i'm a bit of a 'dreamer'.. lol... but hey.. that's what paid for my car, so i guess there is some good in that.. LOL.
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Ben.Peterson said:
I think that is a good 'quick fix'... however, if we figured out a way to connect a switch to change the input to the lcd only... then we could possibly have full functionality of the unit while displaying this as well. I think it would be worth it even if you can only use the audio device connected to the aux ports... but something about the voice nav still alerting you when you need to turn sounds pretty cool to me. Eventually you could build an algo-based switch as well... to switch to the gauges when the car is put into competition mode... or possibly switch anytime the car is 3/4 throttle and over... That's what i like about it.. the possiblities are nearly endless :D.

I think the first step for me will me to allow ssstealth to see if there are any issues (sorry ssstealth, but you're the guinne pig on this one)... then run it with the aux audio only. By then the cts-v guys might possibly have the fix to switch the lcd input... or if not i would be interested in looking into how to do it... from there it would be to find somebody to build the algo-based switch for the input... and so on and so on... lol.

Sorry for the outburst... i'm a bit of a 'dreamer'.. lol... but hey.. that's what paid for my car, so i guess there is some good in that.. LOL.
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FYI when the lockpick is enabled the GPS does not work. No way to get around that, as the radio uses the GPS AND VSS to determine if you are moving or not, and then disables the display based on that. When the lockpick is enabled, it physically (on 05-06 models) breaks the wire for the antennae and vss. I believe the 07-09 models uses software to "break" those connections when enabled.
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Sorry, i don't think i was very clear on what i meant... Lockpick = quick fix. " By then the cts-v guys might possibly have the fix to switch the lcd input" What i meant by this was to go around the need for a lockpick.. if you can change the input on the lcd screen it's self, none of the factory algo will effect it... you'd just be changing what the screen is displaying. I'm not sure if you're familiar with a KVM switch on a computer.. but that's how i see it. Everything just runs in the 'background', and the screen displays whatever you want.

This would be a ways down the road time wise, but it's removing the need for a lockpick for this application. If i'm not mistaken the lockpick was designed to allow the user to play dvd's while driving... but playing dvd's uses the factory processor to feed the info to the screen. Whereas changing the input will bypass all of the system except the actual lcd screen.

Hopefully that makes a little more sense.
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Ben.Peterson said:
Sorry, i don't think i was very clear on what i meant... Lockpick = quick fix. " By then the cts-v guys might possibly have the fix to switch the lcd input" What i meant by this was to go around the need for a lockpick.. if you can change the input on the lcd screen it's self, none of the factory algo will effect it... you'd just be changing what the screen is displaying. I'm not sure if you're familiar with a KVM switch on a computer.. but that's how i see it. Everything just runs in the 'background', and the screen displays whatever you want.

This would be a ways down the road time wise, but it's removing the need for a lockpick for this application. If i'm not mistaken the lockpick was designed to allow the user to play dvd's while driving... but playing dvd's uses the factory processor to feed the info to the screen. Whereas changing the input will bypass all of the system except the actual lcd screen.

Hopefully that makes a little more sense.
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Gotcha. That does make more sense. Though, I do beleive if you look through the STS forums, there is a thread from TOMM (guy who makes the custom lockpick for 05-06) where he tried doing just that, but could not find the correct contact points on the board to tap into. Great thing if it can work though.
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Not impressed so far. Order placed 4/3 and nothing yet on the door step.
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I received the package today. It looks professional enough...


This is the screen that came up out of the box..


After a few screen adjustments, I was able to make it fill up the space a little better...


Here is the full driver view to show they are readable...


And this is the layout settled on for now. There are MANY combinations of layouts and colors.


In driving I did notice some slight variation between oil and water temparature and now I have some numbers to match to the needle on the dash cluster. The gear calibration is proving to be tough. They ask you to do 2500 rpm in each gear. Needless to say 2500 in 6th gear can not be done in your local neighborhood or side street.
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that's VERY sweet...how much that toy cost?


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ssstealth said:
In driving I did notice some slight variation between oil and water temparature and now I have some numbers to match to the needle on the dash cluster. The gear calibration is proving to be tough. They ask you to do 2500 rpm in each gear. Needless to say 2500 in 6th gear can not be done in your local neighborhood or side street.
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Nice! But :thehand: for the $$$ and after reading your thread at magden-auto I say we encourage them to include more exclusivity to the V-series -- One GM product is horrible; Especially after I seen a $hitstang on the SEMA demo video..

Pressure shall be put where results are deemed!
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