yea i see what you mean...my freinds make fun of my cadillac cts by calling it a Ford Fusion :crying:OffThaHorseCEO said:
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Me neither. I like MSN Autos and Consumer Reports. Even though CR is biased towards Japanese cars, their reviews are very frank and sometimes brutally honest, which is good. I like reading about how awesome a car is, but I also want to know its weak points (i.e. the CTS's overload of black plastic in the center console)
And, while the Hyundai is good, I don't think its gotten to the point where its better than the Camry, Hell, that whole list looks WAY off...
It's really:
Camry - Its the number one car in America for a damn good reason...
Accord - It costs WAY too much for a Honda. Hell, I could an Acura for cheaper than what they're selling these things for...
Sonata - Hyundai is only going to get better, and the Sonata is their #1 car, so I'm sure its bound to be good. A ten year warranty doesn't hurt either...:lildevil:
Fusion - It looks good, the six speed auto is great, but lets face it - It's STILL a ford, and its really just a "fusion" of one Great car (the Mazda6) and dumbed down Ford engineering for American retards who can't appreciate European/Japanese/Upscale styling
and are (unfortunately) content with BLANDness like the Ford 500 and the Chevy Impala (its amazing how the Impala went from bad to worse when they took out the Corvette taillights...what a shame GM, what a SHAME!)
Right...which explains why GM is still using 4 speeds???
If GM really did build all of these parts, why not use them in their own cars???
If GM really did build all of these parts, why not use them in their own cars???
You're right about that. They do a good job of looking at the closer details of vehicle useability, which explains their popularity among the general public, as well as the popularity of cars like the Camry.ben72227 said:
Me? I'm a nutty enthusiast. I'll tape on a cupholder and accept a few quality quirks if it means I get a better feel for the road. My view is inherently illogical and impractical, but so much better for the soul!
Stoneage is absolutely correct, the 5 and 6 spd a/t used for the last 10+ years in BMW's are GM transmissions! I've often wondered myself why GM felt we didn't need them in domestics. They obviously woke up since the new STS, Vette and truck/SUV models are being built with 6 speed auto's.ben72227 said:Right...which explains why GM is still using 4 speeds???
If GM really did build all of these parts, why not use them in their own cars???
I suppose GM thinks the American public is dumb and stupid. Of course we want 4-speed slushboxes and OHV engines in our PontiacsStoneage is absolutely correct, the 5 and 6 spd a/t used for the last 10+ years in BMW's are GM transmissions! I've often wondered myself why GM felt we didn't need them in domestics. They obviously woke up since the new STS, Vette and truck/SUV models are being built with 6 speed auto's.
Only smart people would want OHC's and 5/6 speeds, and since we cater mainly to people who have the mindset of "That thing gotta HEMI?!"....Okay, I'll stop now But really, GM and DCX (i.e. Dodge) seem to really dumb down things for the american car buyer, while the "smart" ones flock to Honda and Toyota. Hopefully they've learned their lesson. I'd still really like to see one of those new G6s up close and personal to see what they're like...
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