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You guys are honest-to-God heroes. Thank you being ready to leave home, job, and family at any time to go were you are ordered to go and to fight whomever you are ordered to fight. You made this country come to existence with your own blood, you held it together during wars, peace, and disaster, and still you go out, without asking for anything special, because it's what you signed up to do. You all make this forumn a better one by contributing your time and insights.

Thank you.

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Back in the day. the National Guard was not highly regarded. It was a way to avoid the draft. Now it's the bedrock foundation of our defense.
 

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Back in the day. the National Guard was not highly regarded. It was a way to avoid the draft. Now it's the bedrock foundation of our defense.
Certain individuals have tried to claim that President Bush did not truly serve because he went to the Air National Guard instead of the active services. Funny, but I heard of these same people making that same claim to a Guardsman's face.
 

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Certain individuals have tried to claim that President Bush did not truly serve because he went to the Air National Guard instead of the active services. Funny, but I heard of these same people making that same claim to a Guardsman's face.
The difference was that there was a National Guard that did some close order drill down at the armory every once in a while, went on a two week camping trip every year, and had zero chance of going overseas. Then there was a National Guard that flew single-seat all-weather interceptors and that had a higher casualty rate than any comparable unit that exists today in any active service. Of the people that chose to fly the interceptors such as Bush did as a career, 25% didn't come out the other end alive just from operational accidents. Needless to say, the concept of single-seat all-weather interceptors was abandoned. The cockpit workload was simply more than could be handled by one man. Bush's superiors have reported several times that he was among the best they'd ever seen and did the job very well.
 

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There have been many reorganizations of the National Guard, Army Reserves and regular Army over the years mainly because of the all-volunteer force concept. The result is the best army the world has ever known.
 

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The difference was that there was a National Guard that did some close order drill down at the armory every once in a while, went on a two week camping trip every year, and had zero chance of going overseas. Then there was a National Guard that flew single-seat all-weather interceptors and that had a higher casualty rate than any comparable unit that exists today in any active service. Of the people that chose to fly the interceptors such as Bush did as a career, 25% didn't come out the other end alive just from operational accidents. Needless to say, the concept of single-seat all-weather interceptors was abandoned. The cockpit workload was simply more than could be handled by one man. Bush's superiors have reported several times that he was among the best they'd ever seen and did the job very well.
Not to mention the fact that Bush's unit had the responsibility of intercepting and destroying inbound Soviet bombers in the event of nuclear attack on the United States, which was a distinct likelihood during the Cold War. In the event that his interceptor was launched, it was very likely that the base from which he was launched would have been destroyed by a nuclear warhead. The same goes for any area he would have had to land in or eject over. He would have landed, assuming he lived through the nuclear blast, in a radioactive hell and would have died.

Anyone who would face that is a true hero; not of the chest-thumping, medal-chasing "look at MEEE!" type, but of the type that goes to do his or her job, knows the risks, and takes them anyway.

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