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The 99 Deville I just bought could use some new shoes. I've been reading a ton of reviews on the inter webs & the Cooper CS5 Ultra Touring tires seem to have ratings I like.
But they don't appear to come in white walls.
I've had good luck with Michelins in the past & I was surprised at all the bad reviews/complaints I read.
Anyhow, I don't care about all season tires. I want QUIET SMOOOOOTH riding touring tires.
How about the fancy Vogue Tyres with the gold& white stripes? Worth the fortune they cost?
To be honest I'm not yet sure I want to put ANY money into this car since learning about the head bolt issue.
But It's been three weeks cruising at 196 degrees & I LOVE this car! If there was someone close I would not hesitate to spring for the studs or Norms inserts.
In fact I now have my eye on a minty 94 Eldorado for $1000.00 that just started overheating. If I had two I would attempt the repair myself . The money I'd save would almost pay for that two post lift I dream about! Heh..Heh

So...What's the skinny on some nice quiet treads for my DeVille?

Thanks guy's & gals! Love this forum. I'm now a used Caddy addict!:worship::worship::worship:
 

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The CS5 ultra touring, while quiet, and a great tire, is a touring tire. And the more "aggressive" of the two CS5 tourings offered at that. There are softer riding tires out there.
 

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The 99 Deville I just bought could use some new shoes. I've been reading a ton of reviews on the inter webs & the Cooper CS5 Ultra Touring tires seem to have ratings I like.
But they don't appear to come in white walls.
I've had good luck with Michelins in the past & I was surprised at all the bad reviews/complaints I read.
Anyhow, I don't care about all season tires. I want QUIET SMOOOOOTH riding touring tires.
How about the fancy Vogue Tyres with the gold& white stripes? Worth the fortune they cost?
To be honest I'm not yet sure I want to put ANY money into this car since learning about the head bolt issue.
But It's been three weeks cruising at 196 degrees & I LOVE this car! If there was someone close I would not hesitate to spring for the studs or Norms inserts.
In fact I now have my eye on a minty 94 Eldorado for $1000.00 that just started overheating. If I had two I would attempt the repair myself . The money I'd save would almost pay for that two post lift I dream about! Heh..Heh

So...What's the skinny on some nice quiet treads for my DeVille?

Thanks guy's & gals! Love this forum. I'm now a used Caddy addict!:worship::worship::worship:
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I want QUIET SMOOOOOTH riding touring tires.

How about the fancy Vogue Tyres with the gold& white stripes?
Worth the fortune they cost?
- :lawl:
vogue tires SUCK in every way possible -

horrible traction - harsh ride - WAY overpriced -

I have the Michelin Defender -
 

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I have Michelin Symmetry. They stopped making those, but they sell Michelin Primacy as a replacement.

The car was built with Michelin tires from the factory.
 

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I have found Goodyear Assurance Comfort Treads to be quiet, but I have, like and prefer Michelin. I believe Symmetry's are no longer available. I think Defender has replaced them.
 

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Thanks guy's! I see plenty of Symmetrys on Ebay. Must be selling off old stock. I'll probably do mail order in any case to save on our high sales tax here. I live VERY rural so no real tire centers available to me. My local guy only charges $5.00 a tire to mount and balance.
I ordered a gas in block test kit. We'll see how that goes first.
I only drive around 5000 miles a year, so the DeVille might just last awhile.Maybe! Heh..Heh
 

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The car had Michelin Symetries on it when I bought it, and I replaced them with Michelin Symetries.
 

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I got 100K out of my last set of (factory) Symmetry's. I hope nthe defenders do as well (if I have it that long).
 

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Recently had installed 4 new Michelin 215/70r/15`s with 3/4" whitewalls for my `95 Deville.
Look and ride great!
 

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I have Firestones on my Deville. Not my first choice but they were the only ones available locally with whitewalls. No complaints, they're quiet, good traction and have lasted longer then any other tires I've had on that car. They are good enough that when I needed tires for another car I put Precision Tourings on it, but for that one it was mainly a mix of experience, the price, and reviews of them. If I would buy them again depends on what's available the next time it needs tires which hopefully won't be for a while.

For vogues it seems like people who are obsessed with the look love them and people who want a good tire hate them.
 

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I had a set of Cooper Response that I replaced two months ago. The ride was good but they lasted less than 25k mi. I replaced them with Hankook Optimo H724 (white sidewall) in a slightly different size - P205/75R15 (it was cheaper than the stock size of P205/70R15). So far they seem to be pretty quiet and smooth, and I hope they'll last longer than the Coopers.
 

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The Response was the entry level Cooper tire with the lowest treadwear specification.

There are several newer Cooper tires that are quiet, ride well, long treadlife and excellent in dry and wet conditions........ just like every other tire brand out there. Vogue tires are overpriced for the performance and life they deliver.
 

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The Response was the entry level Cooper tire with the lowest treadwear specification.
That's what I thought as well. I think they might have been a custom built economy model for Sears, as they were the only store to offer them (I couldn't find them on Cooper's website either). However, they were pricey for an entry level tire (probably marked up quite a bit for profit).
 

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I had a set of Cooper Response that I replaced two months ago. The ride was good but they lasted less than 25k mi. I replaced them with Hankook Optimo H724 (white sidewall) in a slightly different size - P205/75R15 (it was cheaper than the stock size of P205/70R15). So far they seem to be pretty quiet and smooth, and I hope they'll last longer than the Coopers.
How are those H724s holding up

I am trying to pick between those and the Uniroyal Tigerpaw AWP II, both in stock size with whitewall, both have conflicting reviews
 

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I have Cooper CS3 Touring on both cars. Smooth quiet & reasonably priced. I will never have another set of white wall tires on anything. They're an annoying upkeep problem.
 

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I have had the Michelin Primacys on my DTS since I have had it and loved them. After having my car stored, I needed some new tires fast on a Sunday and I could not get the Michelins, and my second choice would have been the Cooper CS3s but the shop only had 3 in stock and since I could not wait (I don't like mix-matching tires at all) because I had to go on a road trip that day, my only choice were the Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus so I put them on. I wanted to not like them, but after having them on for about 7 months, I actually am impressed with them. Quiet, nice grip and are pretty good in the rain. I can't comment on snow since I don't think I will be seeing too much in Alabama, but I am interested in how long they will last. Don't know if you can get them in whitewall though.
 

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How are those H724s holding up

I am trying to pick between those and the Uniroyal Tigerpaw AWP II, both in stock size with whitewall, both have conflicting reviews
So far they're pretty good tires. They provide good ride quality, handling, and are quiet. I also run them as per door jam sticker pressure (30 psi), even though I can actually run 26 psi for the same load the original size was providing at 30. I don't do that for mpg reasons as it'll unlikely improve it any, but as an extra measure to try and prolong tire life. I've come to the realization that running a couple of psi extra (actually it's 100 pounds more max load rating than needed) might wear the tread in the middle slightly faster, but it will overall wear more evenly because tires have less tread in the shoulder area. Having less tread in the edges of the tread means it will wear faster there especially with lots of cornering. And, that's ultimately when most tires get replaced - worn out edges but still enough in the middle.

I've been following the same rationale on my wife's car - 100 lbs more load rating, which for her tires and vehicle equates to a 3 psi over recommended cold inflation pressure. I've obviously looked all that up on my trusty load inflation table.

So far my adjustment is working pretty good for both cars. It's not enough of an increase to compromise braking distance or contact patch, plus there's a slightly better steering response. And, since it's still in the 30 psi ballpark the ride quality is as intended.
 
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