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white is white, it's all boring. Just kidding, I'll fix that. My bad.

actually, i agree with u!


the diamond was hot in its day cause it made white much more interesting with its warmth. the crystal is more of a traditional white (cooler). so yes, white is still white! it's my 2nd in 50 yrs! i will say this, my color choices for the '15 se were limited to 3. black, dark gray and white. the white with chrome rims, red calipers along with red rear lights made it a no-brainer. here's what's funny - after the intro of mags (brushed aluminum) in the 80's. i swore i'd never do chrome again. its a bear keeping them bright and clean. i also "knew" i'd never do white (didn't shine) or black (gets dirty while u're drying it) again. there's still hope for me with black.

i'm an ex-software engineer but i've hired enough people over the decades to recognize attention to detail when i see it. u have it in spades! mighty nice work.
 

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The V community has been a great help in what I've done here and appreciate everyone that has pointed out issues to help me develop things and improve the file. The biggest was someone at another place actually owning one of the 2015 cars I had missed which helped me find all of the cars I had missed. A list of 490 out of 500 cars made is no better than no list IMO.
 

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Sheet updated again, the OP link didn't change and has been verified to open the updated sheet. The pointed out white coupe issue was fixed. There is a year break down of ebony interior numbers on coupes and sedans now. Doing the Ebony coupe interior by year also fixed the double counting of 2015 coupes under AFF and under AFF+38S. AFF alone does not include 2015 since the stitching makes those seats different even if those cars still have the AFF RPO.
 

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Added a tab for Stealth Blue. Unless you have one of the first built cars this will not tell you where your car is in the order of Stealth Blue cars. Why? Well, the reports I run to get the numbers can contain up to 25 VINs but don't automatically contain the VINs of 25 cars. So, I took the VINs that were there and looked up the builds for those cars. I ran reports to figure out the builds of the cars that I didn't have VINs for. So, this shows how every car was built but some VINs are missing. Own a Stealth Blue car that doesn't have the VIN listed? You can help me complete the list! In order to get the missing handful of VINs I would have to go through 2000+ VINs. Since I was able to figure out the builds for the missing VINs without doing that I'm not doing that at this time.

The link in the OP gets you the latest version with the new tab.
 

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The list (all old links still point to newest version) contains a new tab that I was previously only putting in the Vagon Owners Facebook group. In filling out the new tab I discovered a discrepancy in glacier blue wagons so now all instances of the file will include the Big Wagon List tab.

Every Evo Green wagon is listed with VIN.

Someone asked me to run their plum wagon and while I was at it I finished filling in the chart for those. I'm missing two VINs but was able to determine the way every car was built anyway similar to what I did with Stealth Blue.

Same with Glacier Blue and Mocha. Every car is listed with its build combo but there are a couple actual VINs missing. In doing Glacier Blue I discovered a discrepancy in the number of manuals. I added up 2013 manuals after discovering this and that added up so it appears I originally made an error. So this didn't change total manuals, just the split in Glacier autos/manuals.

I now have the rarest colors for wagons done. The 2014 only red I think I'm missing too many VINs to complete. The 2014 only grey was too high production. Based on how Opulent Blue is split between model years and how many VINs I'm missing I think I will be able to complete the list for that. There are a bunch of black and black diamonds on the Big Wagon List tab that got put in looking at the feasibility of making this include every single wagon. What I learned is I don't think it is feasible so more common colors are probably a lost cause.
 

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The sheet has under gone a few updates since I last posted here. The link always goes to the most recent sheet so if you've looked at it you've seen the most recent info even though I hadn't actually posted on this forum.

All three bodies now have some numbers for export cars on their tab.

The big wagon list tab went from having every car of a few colors listed to having a couple more colors complete along with over 1300 VINs, All with their info filled in. Every wagon has a line. Every one, even if the VIN is missing has some info filled in for it. There are various subsets of cars where every car has been captured. You would have to download and use the filters in Excel to narrow things down and see if a subset of options you are interested in is complete.

I'm continuing to work on capturing as much info as I can for all the wagons. I'm continuing to get more VINs to fill in the ???? marks. And I will continue work to figure out how the ???? VINs were built. I don't think I will ever have every single VIN but I may be able to have a completed line for every car eventually anyway.
 

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I found mine in the big wagon list, haha. All the options etc. are exactly right. Interesting note on mine; said: "Director Company Car". I'm the 2nd owner of the car, and I bought it with 8k miles on it. Does that mean it was originally a Cadillac director who owned it?
 

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It was owned by GM and assigned to a director in that case. Not necessarily a Cadillac director unless that was what I put in there. If it just says director, director is basically the 2nd level up of GM management that a company car can be assigned to. Unlikely to be anyone you've ever heard of. Manager -> Director -> Executive Director -> Then people you might have heard of, LOL. I've found cars assigned to people like Reuss. I haven't found any assigned to Lutz or any CEOs.
 

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The sheet has also under gone a couple updates again since I last posted. The biggest being a missing color of Coupes, Crimson Red. I see no documentation saying that color was an option. They were made over two months in late 2014 Model Year. It was a 3rd gen CTS color for 2014 and was discontinued for 2015. My only explanation is that they had paint they needed to get rid of and the 2014 CTS sedans weren't selling so it was a way to get rid of it. 20 cars. 4th most rare color for coupes. The total coupes did not change. The amount for each color didn't previously add up to the total, it does now.
 

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Thanks so much for all the work. Neat to find my VIN and love the info on production numbers. I am from Texas (living in Canada), so my search for a V Wagon in Black Diamond was a little harder. Have been very curious what the original wheels and brake colors were as I am the 3rd owner. They are still the same as original... silver and silver. Thanks again.
 

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Have been very curious what the original wheels and brake colors were as I am the 3rd owner. They are still the same as original... silver and silver.
Are you aware that the RPO codes (Regular Production Option) sticker for your vehicle should be on the underside of the cover for the spare tire well?
There are in excess of 200 codes. Not sure anymore where you find the description for each one.

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Are you aware that the RPO codes (Regular Production Option) sticker for your vehicle should be on the underside of the cover for the spare tire well?
There are in excess of 200 codes. Not sure anymore where you find the description for each one.

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Had no idea. Thanks. Purchased it right before Christmas and so far it has been the coldest winter here for some time. Have not done all the investigating I would like to do, but will go look and take a pic. I was curious mostly because it was advertised as Black Diamond Edition. However, when researching the Wagons I could only find refernce to the 2011s that had yellow calipers and graphite wheels. Mine is painted Black Diamond but with silver and silver. No big deal as my main "want" was the paint. Thanks again.
 

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It's a V2. They're all good.
 
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This is all great information, but I am wondering is there a spreadsheet which shows the "total amount of wagons produced" from 2010-2014? If so can you post it?
I heard it was at least 7,000 examples of the wagons made from those years...!!! 2010-2014 Thanks...!!!
 

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This link is a great resource. Ever since I bought my 2011 new, I have been acutely aware of how few coupes are prowling around. My feeling is reinforced every time someone turns around to watch it go by. In fact, only a couple weeks ago I parked nose to nose with a V2 , although its was a sedan (had to take a quick pic for posterity). I don't know that I have ever been in the same lot with another!

Sadly, I will be putting it up on Bring a Trailer soon, and that site allows (in fact requires) a lot of information for each vehicle it accepts for auction. As a side note, I just took delivery of an '07 SL65 AMG which is a motor that has been lingering on my bucket list while they sufficiently depreciated. In any event, I want to include production numbers in my listing, and there is a detail I do not see a way to quantify. While the black coupes were the highest production cars, I see the number goes way down with sunroof delete (couldn't fit comfortably with the sunroof taking headroom). Then there is Recaro and suede steering wheel/shifter. I may be trying to sharpen the pencil too sharply, but is there a way to break the numbers down that far from the research?

Any help will be appreciated.
 

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... In any event, I want to include production numbers in my listing, and there is a detail I do not see a way to quantify. While the black coupes were the highest production cars, I see the number goes way down with sunroof delete (couldn't fit comfortably with the sunroof taking headroom). Then there is Recaro and suede steering wheel/shifter. I may be trying to sharpen the pencil too sharply, but is there a way to break the numbers down that far from the research?

Any help will be appreciated.
Try a PM to V WAGON, who assembled the Production Number list. He's a busy guy, but may be able to break it down further for you.

With my 2013 coupe their were only 4 made in red with a manual trans and sunroof delete. I got the build sheets for all 4, after obtaining the VINs from V WAGON, and it turns out that 2 were identical builds and the other 2 had different options, i.e.- int. color, caliper color, polished vs painted wheels, making each a 1 of 1 for 2013.

Mine is one of the "1 of 1's". Unique to know, but I'm not sure if there would be any added value for resale purposes, unless someone was looking for that specific combination.
LOL... which was the case when I bought mine, after searching for a more than a year.
 

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This is all great information, but I am wondering is there a spreadsheet which shows the "total amount of wagons produced" from 2010-2014? If so can you post it?
I heard it was at least 7,000 examples of the wagons made from those years...!!! 2010-2014 Thanks...!!!
I've actually been asked that before and looked it up.

Number of future parts cars :)
2010-11 3.0L LF1 engine: 2998
2012-14 3.0L LFW engine: 1418
Total 3.0L: 4416
2010-11 3.6L LLT engine: 2765
2012-14 3.6L LFX engine: 1293
Total 3.6L:. 4058
Total parts cars: 8474
Total wagons produced 10241 counting base cars and Vs
 
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