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Hey guys. Just a quick message to address a few of the things I've been seeing in this section of the forum recently. Please take the time to read it and understand it, as it covers some items that are important to all of us.

1- Moderators are not your enemy.

Despite how people feel sometime, we like to goof around and break balls as much as you guys do (sometimes more). Moderators all started out as regular members on the site who came here to talk about our cars and how to mod them, and we continue to do so all the time- we're not just here to Moderate, but will do so if we see the need. Believe it or not, being a Moderator sucks a lot of fun out of the forum for us, because everyone treats us differently than they did before we were Mods.

2- The rules.

The rules have been around since the site started, and are pretty much the same as every Internet forum. No images that are not "safe for work", no blatantly insulting other members, no selling stuff outside the classifieds, and no fighting with the moderators for doing their job. You might feel like you're being picked on when a Mod edits or deletes a post, but if the shoe were on the other foot and some member was ruining your thread or calling you names, you'd want the Mods to clean it up. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated toward anyone, be it a regular member, a Moderator or a Forum Vendor. Which brings me to #3.......

3- Forum Vendors.

I'm getting really sick of people accusing the Mods of favoritism when it comes to our vendors. Let me make this as clear as possible:

If there weren't any vendors here, there would be no site for you all to be reading right now.

Vendors not only provide crucial funds to keep the site running, but are also the ones who make all the cool parts, tunes, and products for your cars, so it's in your best interest that they thrive. Imagine how boring the forum would be and how much crappier all our V's would be if there were no UUC shifters, no StealthV or wait4me tunes, no Kooks headers and no Lindsay Cadillac (just to name a few).

A lot of the vendors here have a long history of satisfied customers, so when a Moderator suggests a Vendor to a member, they're trying to be helpful and connect you with someone who has a good rep in the community- not "sucking up" to them or shilling for them. Acting like an ass and accusing Mods of being biased for recommending vendors or protecting them from baseless insults is not only detrimental to the community, but an almost guaranteed ticket for a vacation.

Last, but not least:

4- For the love of God, please relax and enjoy the forums!

Everyone's been walking on eggshells around here lately because a few people have decided to repeatedly push the envelope and got banned. Relax. We don't like banning people, and we aren't looking to ban you. It isn't fun, and sometimes the people we ban are actually useful members who just go over the line too many times and force our hand.

There's no need to worry about everything you post resulting in trouble, and certainly no need to stop posting in a thread as soon as a Moderator does (which happens a lot lately). Like I said- we're regular members here to talk about cars as well- we just happen to also have the responsibility of enforcing the rules when the rare occasion rises. Follow the simple rules in #2 above, and everything is cool.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. I hope it results in the CTS-V forum getting back to the more fun, easygoing atmosphere it was 6 months ago. :thumbsup:
 

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now i'm really scared to post in any thread :hide:...j/k good post. it all makes sense and i believe everyone can handle it. i too miss the days of when i first joined here and everyone seemed to be :alchi: and having a :nanaparty: while still providing great info to us noobs
 

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Thx Tony!!

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:bump:

Thanks, Tony!

This forum is the best, and without you mods doing your job, it would not be. I applaud you guys/gals!








(I miss tbjs.)
 

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you will never please everyone so i am going to let you know that for me i am happy. i get my questions answered and i get to talk to others with the same hobby as mine!

and i hate rand49er!! HAHA just kidding. hope to see you this weekend
 

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This should be made a sticky. Thanks for all that the mods do...after all, it is a thankless job, for the most part.
 

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ls1tech is looking better and better
Why would you post something like that? The entire point of this thread is to tell people that the forum needs to get back to being more fun, and that there's no reason to fear the Moderators. The few people who have been sent on vacation were aggressively going after mods and asking to be banned, but it's somehow created a negative impression that the mods are "out to get people". I made this thread to let you all know that it isn't the case.

If you can't understand that and decide you want to stop posting here then that's fine- don't let the door hit you on the way out. I think everyone else so far understood the point of my post.
 

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Tony, you are right! I sincerely agree with you whole heartedly.

I'll just flat out say what everyone is to scared to for whatever reason.......

This post wouldn't even be necessary if mods would Stop f'n banning people for speaking their mind and maybe people wouldn't "fear" you. It's the INTERNET

Example...
I got not ONE but TWO posts deleted for absolutely NO reason. Then got my hand slapped for asking who wanted the thread count back. THEN I get yelled at for saying I pay to be one here, and then (i think it was Heavy) says I have intitlement issues?? WTF??? I paid MY $$ to (what I thought) was a great and FUN forum and I actually looked forward to logging on everyday. Now you tell me to not let the door hit me on my way out. <- great people skills! :bigroll:

There are some great guys on here and excellent information. I've even posted some writeups on here to kinda "give back" so to speak. I even want to meet up with some of you, hang out, drink beers, talk $hit, go drive around or whatever. It feels like a small niche family since there are so few V's.

But why do you think BigJim bolted?? Quit being big brother and let people f'n poAst and the forum WILL get back to being fun! I used to love being on here, but cut the f'n drama factory out of the equation already and you'll quit making people want to leave!
 

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Just a quick message...
I would hate to see your idea of a long winded message :lol:



ls1tech is looking better and better
um, yeah :rolleyes:

if you think this place is bad...I got an infraction on ls1tech for putting an animated gif in my signature. No warning, no pm, just an infraction and big f***in red letters all over my signature.

plus finding useful information there is akin to finding a needle in a train wreck




This should be made a sticky.
one last time...stickies get read once then ignored. contrary to their purpose. I am of the opinion there are already way too many stickies at the top of this forum.
 

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But why do you think BigJim bolted?? Quit being big brother and let people f'n poAst and the forum WILL get back to being fun! I used to love being on here, but cut the f'n drama factory out of the equation already and you'll quit making people want to leave!
All of the recent bannings are directly related to members being disrespectful to Moderators. That is one thing we have no tolerance for. Not because we all feel high and mighty but because finding good Moderators is very difficult for an active forum. Finding people who will do this kind of work for no money and no other type of reward AND be good at it is very hard to do. I think our team is excellent, but not error proof.

If a member has a problem with something a Moderator did, feel free to tell the Moderator what your side of the story is. Something like "I totally disagree with what you did and here is why....". Do not say "you're a prick, etc.". Then if you feel its necessary, take it up with me or Sal(Lord Cadillac). Calling a moderator a prick or telling him to STFU will get you banned.

This is for everybody I just happen to be quoting Lollygagger
 

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Tony, you are right! I sincerely agree with you whole heartedly.

I'll just flat out say what everyone is to scared to for whatever reason.......

This post wouldn't even be necessary if mods would Stop f'n banning people for speaking their mind and maybe people wouldn't "fear" you. It's the INTERNET
Here's the problem:

When Urbanski left, this place got out of control for a week or two- nipple pictures, people selling things outside the classifieds, people insulting each other, etc, etc. I'm not going to make excuses for what any other moderator might have done, but I suspect that the rules tightened up a little bit after that period as a way of correcting how "out of control" it had become. There was so much crap on here that heavy was deleting anything questionable as way of letting people know that the rules were now going to be enforced again.

The reason I was recruited as a Moderator was because this place had gotten out of control and they needed another set of eyes. I've been on here for 5 years as a member before I was asked to be a mod, so don't think I'm just some "hired gun" they brought in to be a dickhead to you guys. I think things have gotten back under control now, and we can go back to being more easygoing and flexible.

However:

There are still some people who want to continue this "Us versus the Moderators" crusade, and I assure you that you'll lose. Your post is a perfect example of what I'm talking about- everyone is happy with what I posted, but for some reason, you felt the need to keep up the antagonistic attitude and do exactly what I'm asking people not to do. So you got a warning or a 3 day vacation in the past- big deal. As you said: IT'S THE INTERNET. Did it really affect your life that you got a little warning for a rude post or a nipple pic? Seriously man.....relax. Warnings only turn in to bans when people are stupid enough to ignore the warning and take up a fight with a moderator.

I'm sorry that you think I have poor people skills for telling you "not to let the door hit you", but you're the one who said you liked another forum better. If that's the case, then leave. If you expect me to beg you to stay, you're in for a long wait. 99% of the members here are respectful, follow the rules and have a great time. If one or two just can't handle the fact that this isn't a free-for-all, then they're welcome to leave any time they want. If they choose to stay and keep acting like asses, then we'll help them out the door.

To summarize:

I know that the Moderation has been a little heavy-handed lately (<--no pun intended :D), but I think it was because this place got out of hand and needed a tight leash to remind everyone of the rules. Now that everyone's chilled out with all the rule breaking, we will be relaxing our moderation so everyone can have some fun within the limits of the rules (which is just the way it was before Urb left).

It's unbelievable that I'd make a post about us relaxing the rules a bit and still have people bitching. Read between the lines, people. :doh:
 

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Finding people who will do this kind of work for no money and no other type of reward AND be good at it is very hard to do. I think our team is excellent, but not error proof.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait....

We are not getting paid?! I thought there was just a two-week delay on the first paycheck...
 
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