Thanks for the post but it is old news that has been discussed at length here. I even started one of the doom and gloom threads. In reality, the story may not be as dire as these articles predict. Our members here correctly pointed out that the engineering has been done and as long as they continue to sell well we will still have a V. It has also been pointed out that the V series has new product in the pipeline. So for the timebeing our beloved V is safe but the future will tell. Kinda like how the manual transmission may not be made in 2010 (turned out to be false as it is now in the order book). Never say never!
Endangered Cadillac: 2009 CTS-V Series
More Doom & Gloom about the Obamanization (socialization) of America
The Wheel Deal
It's all about the product.
By Alex Taylor III
From Fortune Magazine
"For those of you following the shrinking of General Motors (GM) as it tries to devise a survival plan that could allow a takeover by the federal government, Cadillac has been designated one of its core brands. Its previous association with Saab and Hummer has been dissolved, and the historic old Cadillac brand — which, at 106, is older than GM itself — is looking toward the future.
A question for GM’s prospective government owners: How will you feel about the 556 horsepower CTS-V?
You don’t hear much about maxi-cars from Washington these days. The Obama Administration is one that talks about restraint and sacrifice when it is not inveighing against global warming and climate change.
So where does the CTS-V fit into that picture with its 6.2 liter V-8 engine, Brembo brakes, 19-inch aluminum wheels, magnetic ride control, and – oh, yes – 12 miles per gallon estimated city mileage, and a $57,920 base price. (The as-tested price for my crystal red number, with special seats, a navi system, and gas guzzler tax was $68,135.)
The CTS-V is a limited volume vehicle, with about 1,000 sold in the first four months of this year. And while the big-engine, reasonable-price concept bears the fingerprints of the renowned Bob Lutz, the former head of product development is easing off to retirement, leaving nobody of comparable stature to argue for the CTS-V’s survival.
I’ve never been a huge fan of the CTS – it always feels assembled to me from parts that aren’t fully integrated with each other. But if you are looking for Corvette performance with a nicer interior and four doors, this is the car to get.
Being respectful of my driver’s license, wildlife well-being, roadside joggers, and fuel consumption, I didn’t come near to accessing the car’s full performance capability. But Edmunds reports that a six-speed manual version raced to 60 miles per hour in 4.3 seconds.
That makes the CTS-V one of the best performance-for-money cars on the planet.
What I liked about the car was its tractability around town. Some high-horsepower cars feel like they are fighting to restrain themselves at low speed, but the CTS-V was comfortable in any situation.
So, if you are so inclined, run, don’t walk past the Saab and Hummer stores to get to your Cadillac dealer. V-series models like the CTS-V will be hard to come by if General Motors becomes Obama Motors."
http://thewheeldeal.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/01/endangered-cadillac-2009-cts-v-series/
The Wheel Deal
It's all about the product.
By Alex Taylor III
From Fortune Magazine
"For those of you following the shrinking of General Motors (GM) as it tries to devise a survival plan that could allow a takeover by the federal government, Cadillac has been designated one of its core brands. Its previous association with Saab and Hummer has been dissolved, and the historic old Cadillac brand — which, at 106, is older than GM itself — is looking toward the future.
A question for GM’s prospective government owners: How will you feel about the 556 horsepower CTS-V?
You don’t hear much about maxi-cars from Washington these days. The Obama Administration is one that talks about restraint and sacrifice when it is not inveighing against global warming and climate change.
So where does the CTS-V fit into that picture with its 6.2 liter V-8 engine, Brembo brakes, 19-inch aluminum wheels, magnetic ride control, and – oh, yes – 12 miles per gallon estimated city mileage, and a $57,920 base price. (The as-tested price for my crystal red number, with special seats, a navi system, and gas guzzler tax was $68,135.)
The CTS-V is a limited volume vehicle, with about 1,000 sold in the first four months of this year. And while the big-engine, reasonable-price concept bears the fingerprints of the renowned Bob Lutz, the former head of product development is easing off to retirement, leaving nobody of comparable stature to argue for the CTS-V’s survival.
I’ve never been a huge fan of the CTS – it always feels assembled to me from parts that aren’t fully integrated with each other. But if you are looking for Corvette performance with a nicer interior and four doors, this is the car to get.
Being respectful of my driver’s license, wildlife well-being, roadside joggers, and fuel consumption, I didn’t come near to accessing the car’s full performance capability. But Edmunds reports that a six-speed manual version raced to 60 miles per hour in 4.3 seconds.
That makes the CTS-V one of the best performance-for-money cars on the planet.
What I liked about the car was its tractability around town. Some high-horsepower cars feel like they are fighting to restrain themselves at low speed, but the CTS-V was comfortable in any situation.
So, if you are so inclined, run, don’t walk past the Saab and Hummer stores to get to your Cadillac dealer. V-series models like the CTS-V will be hard to come by if General Motors becomes Obama Motors."
http://thewheeldeal.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/01/endangered-cadillac-2009-cts-v-series/
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Oh I know that the CTS-V is alive and well, at least for 2010.
I just find it very interesting that so many publications mention, or illude to, the socialization of the auto industry, be it GM or Chrysler. It does worry me when the government sets pay limits for executives, bails out failing business models and individuals who've made poor/ignorant choices, freely doles money to what they deem a worthy cause, and just generally takes the risk and reward away from our lives.
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I just find it very interesting that so many publications mention, or illude to, the socialization of the auto industry, be it GM or Chrysler. It does worry me when the government sets pay limits for executives, bails out failing business models and individuals who've made poor/ignorant choices, freely doles money to what they deem a worthy cause, and just generally takes the risk and reward away from our lives.
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:yeah:Thanks for the post but it is old news that has been discussed at length here. I even started one of the doom and gloom threads. In reality, the story may not be as dire as these articles predict. Our members here correctly pointed out that the engineering has been done and as long as they continue to sell well we will still have a V. It has also been pointed out that the V series has new product in the pipeline. So for the timebeing our beloved V is safe but the future will tell. Kinda like how the manual transmission may not be made in 2010 (turned out to be false as it is now in the order book). Never say never!
You can bet that at a minimum the car will exist for 3 model years. CAFE won't be an issue before then.
Edit - There's a good chance we're at then end of the muscle car development again, just like in the early 70s, and will live off of 2010 builds until the next phase comes along.
Statistically speaking, it is easy to assume that the political views of automotive writers are split Democrat versus Republican in about the same percentages as that of the average US citizen demographic.I just find it very interesting that so many publications mention, or illude to, the socialization of the auto industry, be it GM or Chrysler.
Consequently, one can imagine a fairly similar percentage of automotive writers, who get paid to come up with things to write about, may use their own political agendas to drive their topics.
So yeah, I'm completely unsurprised by the high number of articles written about the automotive industry and the perceived impacts.
The bottom line is, the typical US citizen will suck up all the written drama they can find, be it news of foreclosures, celebrity rehab, the "death" of any major corporation or industry, etc.
The fact that this same topic gets beaten to death on this, and other automotive forums is just further proof.
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