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DTC C1738 failed Rear Suspension Exhaust solenoid '98 SLS and potential cheap fix

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#1 ·
The Caddy has been riding poorly lately. I think the gas shocks have lost most of their air. I have two DTC's set. C 1738 and C1711. C1738 is Exhaust Solenoid Short to Ground. C1711 is LF Damper Actuator Short Circuit to Ground.
After going through the diagnosis steps in the shop manual, I have discovered that I have an electrically open Exhaust solenoid which is located in the Automatic Level Control (ALC) compressor pump head . (See Schematic below)
It appears as a 'short to ground' because when the exhaust solenoid controller located in the Continuously Variable Road Sensing Suspension (CVRSS) module tests for voltage, it reads low because it is not connected due to the open exhaust solenoid in the ALC compressor head.
My first thought was to replace the OEM shocks with Monroe (as suggested elsewhere here), but that would mean giving up the variable rate OEM shocks. I have tested the airshocks, and the compressor, and both appear to be working. I did this by manually connecting the control side of relay 55 located in the Rear Junction Box (fuse panel) to ground which turns the compressor on (ELC relay in the schematic). Yes it is ELC in some places and ALC in others??
So my next thought was perhaps I can fool the logic by connecting a resistor across the exhaust valve solenoid in the compressor head (i.e., C to A on the ALCC in the schematic). The exhaust valve would still be inoperative, but it would allow the pump to raise the vehicle. It should also allow the CVRSS to work properly. The downside is that it will not automatically vent air from the shocks when the load is removed.
The long-term fix would be to replace the compressor with an Arnott unit. It does appear that they have one specifically for my vehicle.
Does anyone have any idea what the approximate resistance value of the exhaust solenoid in the compressor head is? Mine is currently infinite, or at least very large. My plan is to begin with a 1kohm resistor, since this would dissipate less than 1/4 watt at 14v. If this allows me to clear the DTC, then we will go with it.
Stay tuned!
 

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The Caddy has been riding poorly lately. I think the gas shocks have lost most of their air. I have two DTC's set. C 1738 and C1711. C1738 is Exhaust Solenoid Short to Ground. C1711 is LF Damper Actuator Short Circuit to Ground.
After going through the diagnosis steps in the shop manual, I have discovered that I have an electrically open Exhaust solenoid which is located in the Automatic Level Control (ALC) compressor pump head . (See Schematic below)
It appears as a 'short to ground' because when the exhaust solenoid controller located in the Continuously Variable Road Sensing Suspension (CVRSS) module tests for voltage, it reads low because it is not connected due to the open exhaust solenoid in the ALC compressor head.
My first thought was to replace the OEM shocks with Monroe (as suggested elsewhere here), but that would mean giving up the variable rate OEM shocks. I have tested the airshocks, and the compressor, and both appear to be working. I did this by manually connecting the control side of relay 55 located in the Rear Junction Box (fuse panel) to ground which turns the compressor on (ELC relay in the schematic). Yes it is ELC in some places and ALC in others??
So my next thought was perhaps I can fool the logic by connecting a resistor across the exhaust valve solenoid in the compressor head (i.e., C to A on the ALCC in the schematic). The exhaust valve would still be inoperative, but it would allow the pump to raise the vehicle. It should also allow the CVRSS to work properly. The downside is that it will not automatically vent air from the shocks when the load is removed.
The long-term fix would be to replace the compressor with an Arnott unit. It does appear that they have one specifically for my vehicle.
Does anyone have any idea what the approximate resistance value of the exhaust solenoid in the compressor head is? Mine is currently infinite, or at least very large. My plan is to begin with a 1kohm resistor, since this would dissipate less than 1/4 watt at 14v. If this allows me to clear the DTC, then we will go with it.
Stay tuned!
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where to start -

ELC = Electronic Level Control - ALC - Automatic Level Control = same thing -
ALC was the term used on the older cars/versions -
ELC sounds MUCH more modern - so they renamed it -

I don't want to burst your bubble - BUT -
I seriously doubt the F45 portion of your rear shocks are still functioning -
and I can't imagine the air bladders still hold air -

as for the compressor -
the exhaust solenoid is an integral part of the compressor head -
it gets all clogged up with crud over the years and can't close -
this forces the compressor to run constantly - but doesn't actually move ANY air -

YES - years ago repair/rebuilding kits were available - BUT - were discontinued -
mainly because the compressor itself was simply worn out -

you can buy a brand new SUNCORE for $155 - with free shipping -

as for the shocks - you'll NEVER find a new pair of F45 shocks - PERIOD -
I recommend the MONROE MA822 - $73 - for the PAIR - with free shipping -

you may or may not need new air lines -
MONROE AK29 has the original factory ends for the shocks -

lastly you'll need a set of 4.7K ohm resistors - one for each shock/strut -
$2.60 - for a pack of 10 - with free shipping -

then replace those worn out front struts -
MONROE 71685 - bare strut -
or better yet - MONROE 171685 QUICK STRUT - a complete - fully assembled strut assembly
with all brand new parts including springs -
 
#4 ·
He has an SLS - FE1 passive suspension, soft springs (?) - so his strut/shock choice is easier and requires no suspension control resistors. I think he can still find rear height control sensors, too.
 
#7 ·
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I do indeed have the F45 package with the CVRSS as indicated above. It is the primary reason why I am going to attempt a patch. It is low risk. The exhaust solenoid in the compressor head is already open, so there is nothing to be damaged. I'm waiting for parts, but plan to try a 1kohm resistor to bridge the solenoid open. If this takes away the DTC, then the system should be fooled into operating. If not, there is little lost. I already have the Monroe MA822 air shocks for the rear along with the connect kit. If the patch doesn't work, then those will go in.
 
#8 ·
To bypass the active shocks you need a 1/2 Watt 4700 Ohm (4.7K Ohm) resistor across each shock > body harness connector. Post #3. The solenoid failure DTC is one thing and is set by solenoid shift from supply to vent failures; the resulting DTC from going to passive shocks is another.
 
#9 ·
Submariner409 thanks for the suggestion on bypassing the variable shocks. My plan at the moment is try to retain the present shocks, but fix the DTC by bridging the opencircuit solenoid located in the compressor head. I am aware of the 4.7k resistors required to bypass the electrical shock control. I'm not sure what size the resistor should be to simulate the Exhaust solenoid valve in the head. I'm going to start with a 1k since that will limit the current to 14 ma at 14 volts, with power dissipated less than 1/4 watt. (V2/R).
As I understand the way this fault is set, the exhaust solenoid valve port, C14 /C1 checks the voltage on the 320 line (in the schematic above) when the Exhaust solenoid control (in the CVRSS module) is opened. If the voltage is less than 12v, it sets DTC C1738 and assumes that there is a short to ground somewhere between B10/C3 (1342, ALCCompressor, 320) and C14/C1.
In my case, since the Exhaust control solenoid in the compressor head assembly is open circuit, there is no way for the 12 v to get to the CVRSS module, i.e., to get from (circuit 1342) pin C to pin A (Circuit 320)of the ALCCompressor module harness . By bridging the solenoid in the compressor head assembly, I'm hoping that I can fool the logic and remove the DTC. I'm waiting for resistor parts at the moment, but hope to be back at it tomorrow.
 
#10 ·
Submariner409 thanks for the suggestion on bypassing the variable shocks. My plan at the moment is try to retain the present shocks, but fix the DTC by bridging the opencircuit solenoid located in the compressor head. I am aware of the 4.7k resistors required to bypass the electrical shock control. I'm not sure what size the resistor should be to simulate the Exhaust solenoid valve in the head. I'm going to start with a 1k since that will limit the current to 14 ma at 14 volts, with power dissipated less than 1/4 watt. (V2/R).
As I understand the way this fault is set, the exhaust solenoid valve port, C14 /C1 checks the voltage on the 320 line (in the schematic above) when the Exhaust solenoid control (in the CVRSS module) is opened. If the voltage is less than 12v, it sets DTC C1738 and assumes that there is a short to ground somewhere between B10/C3 (1342, ALCCompressor, 320) and C14/C1.
In my case, since the Exhaust control solenoid in the compressor head assembly is open circuit, there is no way for the 12 v to get to the CVRSS module, i.e., to get from (circuit 1342) pin C to pin A (Circuit 320)of the ALCCompressor module harness . By bridging the solenoid in the compressor head assembly, I'm hoping that I can fool the logic and remove the DTC. I'm waiting for resistor parts at the moment, but hope to be back at it tomorrow.
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I'm not sure what size the resistor should be to simulate the Exhaust solenoid valve in the head.
you are wasting your time
 
#12 ·
So I bridged the Exhaust Solenoid located in the Compressor head with a 4.7 kiloohm resistor, thereby fooling the logic. The compressor now turns on. as expected. Both DTCs have been cleared. The compressor raised the air shocks in the rear correctly. I have a full tank of fuel, so the rear should continue to rise as the fuel decreases. The lack of an Exhaust Solenoid function (solenoid in head not functioning and bridged by a 4.7k resistor) means that I will not have auto lowering
I am still getting "Suspension needs Service", so I am not sure exactly what that means. Perhaps the electronics are smarter than I think.