Ugh...more mediocre GM crap. IF I was gonna go with something with the 3800, I'd probably go with a GTP or Park Ave Ultra. Atleast they're a somewhat cool car.Chad, what about a '00-'05 Impala? I know someone who has one with 160K miles on it (its his work and personal car) and it does great. It is surprisingly spacious and I fit very comfortably in the back seat. The seats are comfortable, it greats great gas mileage and it has some power to boot. His is the very base model but the suspension is great and soaks up all sorts of bumps but also allows you to whip it around corners if you wanted. In that 160K the only problems he has had is a clogged CAT and a broken exterior door handle (they are just plastic) but he found one at a junkyard for $10.
I'd rather pound an xacto knife through my left testicle than own a Crown Victoria/ Grand Marquis or Town Car. If I didn't like the way the big RWD GM cars drove, then why the hell would I buy Ford's offering? LOLdirt_cheap_fleetwood said:Also honorable mentions, Lincoln Town Car, Grand Marquis and Crown Victoria. Around here the municipalities use Crown Victorias as general vehicles, not for police duty so you can get them in good condition (they REALLY take care of these cars) with decent miles for a great price. My old high school sells their driver's ed cars, which are Crown Vics, every 5 years or so and they are great. The schools wants to keep the kids safe so maintenance is a top priority and the cars are never beat on because new drivers are afraid to take chances.
The GTi is more fun to drive, but the Honda is more practical, reliable and cheap to own. Nobody ever talks about their unreliable, problematic Honda.Out of those I'd definitely lean towards the GTi. Don't forget VW gives you a 4 year/50,000 mile basic warranty, and a 5 year/60,000 mile powertrain warranty. I'm actually considering a gently used 2008-09 R32 for my next car. Just read a ton of reviews, test drive another, and decide if it suits your needs better than the Hondas.
Damn. He's got a good point. Now just find me a nice car up my alley for $3,000. Any sort of compact car would be shit for that price range. Pretty much the only decent cars at that price are big domestic boats....and I'd like something smaller and more nimble than that now..http://www.daveramsey.com/etc/lms/drive_free/player.cfm
Buy a $3000 car. Put $100 a month into a savings fund for repairs.
I'll still take a look at those.Since you mentioned them earlier, I'd also suggest you test drive an Acura TSX that's a year or more old. You might be able to get a certified used one for a good price. It's going to have that smaller nimbleness that you liked in the Civic and the VW, but a more luxurious feel, plus Honda reliability.
Don't let the Acura badge scare you off. The mechanicals are all Honda, so it's not going to eat you alive for parts and service any more than the Civic would. Probably less than the VW, too. I'm always a bit leery of turbos anyway. I like my power the old-fashioned way.
The GTO sounds like a fun car, but I can't do something RWD with that power in MN...I'd need a secondary FWD car and then I've gotta spend more money...The thought of the small econosports on the long flat Mid-west highway stretches leaves me a bit wishing for something a bit more compatible with the environment in which you find youself. I don't see you in a "blahmobile" or a "geezer's delight" either. The VW GTi is a great driver, fun and capable of covering long distances comfortably .... but let's face it, their reliabilty and other problems are an expense, not to mention a time consumer to get put right.
So my suggestion is a good clean late model Pontiac GTO. There are plenty of low mileage cars around at pretty low prices. The build quality was decent and the engine pretty much bullet proof, most of the accessories were not unique to the model so they should be cheap to come by. While the 6 speed would be fun, I'v driven the automatic on several ocassions was completely happy with it. Well that's my 2 cents worth, best of luck selling your Merc ....... maybe an add in the Pan African Gazette might find a young dictator's subaltern who'd love to have it. I'll be interested to hear what you end up replacing the S Class with in the coming months.
The CC is nice, but it's a $28,000 car, and that's it's base MSRP, which puts it out of my price range. I've always kinda liked the GTi's...they're much more normal for a single guy my age. They're fast and fun to drive, yet still comfortable and still very versatile and usable as a DD. I've always liked how VW's feel, but their reliability record scares me.I almost bought a 2005 GTO.. but for the same price you can get a loaded Infiniti G35 Coupe with Navigation, Xenons, and so much more than the GTO offers.
Seriously though, I can't see you in a GTi. My brother traded his DTS on a new Passat CC VR6 (all maintenance paid for 3 years). Now that I can see you in :thumbsup:
He got 1.9% APR for 60 months too! It is a really nice car and he doesn't miss the DTS one bit.
But seriously, before you buy a Civic; buy another Deville or something!! .. or you WILL lose your man card!
Probably $9,000ish... oh, and how much are you selling the S320 for?
I still do like the W140 a lot. It'll probably be the nicest, most exclusive, most luxurious car I'll ever own. I don't WANT to get rid of it, but I can't afford it. The S Class's warranty expires in about 2000 miles, so once that's over, I'm done.Personally, I think you're looking for an excuse for a new car. I know because I've been there and done that, regretted it later (Range Rover) and if that weren't bad enough, have to hear Dave Ramsey call me out on it every day on the radio. If the S Class has a comprehensive warranty I'm not even sure what you're so worried about.
WITH THAT BEING SAID... Obvious choices... 2003-05 E46 BMW CPO, or 2003-05 Cadillac CTS. 15-17k will get you a perfect CPO and those things are both solid as a rock.
So stop crying your heart out, you don't think you'll miss your S Class now, but once it's gone it'll feel as if it's half the world away.
The blower motor was shot. That cost $1070 to replace, and that was after the EXCELLENT service department cut me a nice discount. The low freon was caused by a (very small) leak in the compressor. The dealer wanted $1700 to cover that, and my warranty didn't cover that because "they didn't see any leaks" so I had my dealer add dye and recharge (at no cost to me! Feldmann Imports rocks!!!) and we'll check again before the warranty expires in 2000 miles.Chad, what's the latest with the A/C problem??
I test drove a 2005 G35 sedan once and was pretty impressed by it. The steering feel/handling is amazing. My only complaint was it lacked in elbow room.Are those G35's pretty solid and reliable? I could do one of those just as long as it's the X model for MN snow...
Worst mistake I ever made.....getting excited about a car we knew had problems on the test drive, and thinking to myself, "I can live with that," or "I can fix that." Looking back on it now, I would have searched for a different Caddy. But one POS car out of a slew of awesome rides.....But like you guys experienced with Ruthie's deVille...what if you buy what seems to be a nice car, but only to pick up a lot of someone else's problems, drive you CRAZY, prove to be extremely problematic and unreliable, and cause you hundreds of dollars.
Go test drive a few Fleetwoods or maybe some 5.7L Broughams if there are some in the area. The biggest gripe I have with mine is fuel mileage, which is about 14-16 for me but I knew it wouldn't be great when I bought it and I really don't care. If I have to put a little extra gas in to drive a car that I enjoy, it is worth it. Repairs are something that every car needs. Even with all the horrible luck I have had with my Fleetwood I still have only $2500 invested in a car with 68K miles in decent condition. Once I am finished with the stuff I need to fix this spring the car will be as good as new and will last for a long time, I hope. Parts are also rather cheap now for early '90s and late' 80s cars. Last time I went to Elias's house he informed me that the front shocks for my Brougham are $13 each at the dealer and I just looked up front calipers for my Fleetwood, $13 a piece at Napa.Maybe a Fleetwood would be my best bet? It's simple and reliable like the Roadmaster, and I've never owned one, and it's still got the status of the Cadillac. It wouldn't handle or steer like a 4.9 deVille, but it wouldn't give me the headaches...
You can always swap out the steering box and shocks on those for a sportier feel right?