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Everyone, the following statements are based on my true life experiences with Atlanta Classic Cars of Deluth, GA.

I have been searching for a V for months, literally. I finally stumbled across one that was close, reasonably priced and what looked to be in good condition. So last week I inquired about this particular V.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=190112744&dealer_id=625980&car_year=2004&search_type=both&make=CAD&model=CTS&distance=300&transmission=Manual&make2=sel_one&address=28210&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&bkms=1128440925983&max_price=&sort_type=priceASC&min_price=&end_year=2004&color=&start_year=2004&drive=&isp=y&engine=8+Cylinder&lang=&fuel=&doors=&cardist=204#vdptop

I was very excited about the car and ready to buy. I called the dealership and spoke with a so-called "salesman". I asked the following questions (his responses included)

-What is the over all condition of the car? - excellent
-How about the interior? - immaculate
-Are there any dings/dents/scratches on the vehicle, because I cannot stomach a car with them. - I looked it over, it looks great.
-How are the tires? - they look good.
-Do you have all the service records/dvd's etc. - Yes i have it all here.
-Do you have any idea with previously owned the vehicle? Was it a mature driver? - Well Matt we are a Mercedes benz dealer, all of our customers are mature drivers, but this car was owned my multi, mutli milionare gentleman, who traded this car in on an E55.

So it sounded like a dream comes true.....so I gave him an offer.

I'll give you 34,500 out the door for it. Nothing more. Please realize I'm taking a whole day out of my weekend to drive down from Charlotte.

-Ok sir you have a deal.

I will be putting 2,000 down, here is my Amex and we will be there at 10-10:30 am Saturday morning.

I think great, so anxiety and delight sets in........Saturday morning 6 am arrives, time to being the trek to pick up my V.

We arrive @ 10:45. The following of events then turns this into the worse trip ever.

1. The car is filthy when I get there. No consideration to even have it detailed.
2. There is a cell phone antenna on it.
3. The tires are BALD, absolutley BALD, down the wear marks
4. The interior is SHIT. The dvd/navigation has scratches on it and looked to have been cleaned with some chemical, The rubberized plastic was worn away in 5 areas.
5. Large scratches on the rear bumper, under the door handles, and 1 on the hood.
6. The brakes were almost gone.
7. The shift knob was totally scratched.
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Ok the above was minor compared to the next items. I entertained the guy and took it for a drive.

I turned it on, the seats moved to about 10 inches from the steering wheel, obviously a womans seating, and the DVD flashed "HELLO KELLY" - yes it could be guy, but not with a seat position like that.

- The tranny rattled and clunked through every shift.
- The motor vibrated through the cabin, literally it vibrated your ass
- The motor also sounded like something was wrong with it....by this time i was so pissed I i gave up.

I came back to the dealer. I said, salesguy, why are you trying to F me here, I drove 200 miles to come drive this piece of shit. He tried to keep us there, get us coffee etc. He said whats wrong.....i then told him the above. And that;s about it. I could go into more detailed but the moral of this story is. DO NOT BUY THAT V or ever deal with ATLANTA CLASSIC CARS. thanks.
 

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Everyone, the following statements are based on my true life experiences with Atlanta Classic Cars of Deluth, GA.

I have been searching for a V for months, literally. I finally stumbled across one that was close, reasonably priced and what looked to be in good condition. So last week I inquired about this particular V.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=190112744&dealer_id=625980&car_year=2004&search_type=both&make=CAD&model=CTS&distance=300&transmission=Manual&make2=sel_one&address=28210&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&bkms=1128440925983&max_price=&sort_type=priceASC&min_price=&end_year=2004&color=&start_year=2004&drive=&isp=y&engine=8+Cylinder&lang=&fuel=&doors=&cardist=204#vdptop

I was very excited about the car and ready to buy. I called the dealership and spoke with a so-called "salesman". I asked the following questions (his responses included)

-What is the over all condition of the car? - excellent
-How about the interior? - immaculate
-Are there any dings/dents/scratches on the vehicle, because I cannot stomach a car with them. - I looked it over, it looks great.
-How are the tires? - they look good.
-Do you have all the service records/dvd's etc. - Yes i have it all here.
-Do you have any idea with previously owned the vehicle? Was it a mature driver? - Well Matt we are a Mercedes benz dealer, all of our customers are mature drivers, but this car was owned my multi, mutli milionare gentleman, who traded this car in on an E55.

So it sounded like a dream comes true.....so I gave him an offer.

I'll give you 34,500 out the door for it. Nothing more. Please realize I'm taking a whole day out of my weekend to drive down from Charlotte.

-Ok sir you have a deal.

I will be putting 2,000 down, here is my Amex and we will be there at 10-10:30 am Saturday morning.

I think great, so anxiety and delight sets in........Saturday morning 6 am arrives, time to being the trek to pick up my V.

We arrive @ 10:45. The following of events then turns this into the worse trip ever.

1. The car is filthy when I get there. No consideration to even have it detailed.
2. There is a cell phone antenna on it.
3. The tires are BALD, absolutley BALD, down the wear marks
4. The interior is SHIT. The dvd/navigation has scratches on it and looked to have been cleaned with some chemical, The rubberized plastic was worn away in 5 areas.
5. Large scratches on the rear bumper, under the door handles, and 1 on the hood.
6. The brakes were almost gone.
7. The shift knob was totally scratched.
.....

Ok the above was minor compared to the next items. I entertained the guy and took it for a drive.

I turned it on, the seats moved to about 10 inches from the steering wheel, obviously a womans seating, and the DVD flashed "HELLO KELLY" - yes it could be guy, but not with a seat position like that.

- The tranny rattled and clunked through every shift.
- The motor vibrated through the cabin, literally it vibrated your ass
- The motor also sounded like something was wrong with it....by this time i was so pissed I i gave up.

I came back to the dealer. I said, salesguy, why are you trying to F me here, I drove 200 miles to come drive this piece of shit. He tried to keep us there, get us coffee etc. He said whats wrong.....i then told him the above. And that;s about it. I could go into more detailed but the moral of this story is. DO NOT BUY THAT V or ever deal with ATLANTA CLASSIC CARS. thanks.


Sorry dude. That sucks man.

I was worried about the same thing happening to me, since I bought a used car. Sorry you had a bad outcome.
 

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wtf, not only would I have been pissed, I would have talked to his manager and raised hell about the salespersons lies.. Thats total BS. This is why I deal with these things through email, so I have 100 percent proof of anything they say to me.. If I ever got screwed like that, I would make them pay for any expenses for my trip.
 

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Sorry, man, I feel for you. But, to be honest, I wouldn't even trust a salesman's answers to my questions about a car even if the car were sitting 5 feet in front of me. I'd have to see, touch, and verify it myself.
 

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Sorry, man, I feel for you. But, to be honest, I wouldn't even trust a salesman's answers to my questions about a car even if the car were sitting 5 feet in front of me. I'd have to see, touch, and verify it myself.
I know man, I was blinded by the prize. I kept saying to myself, ok this is apparently a reputable dealer, being a mercedes benz pre-owned. I was totally wrong. :rant2:
 

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Brand new 04V in Cleveland Blk on Blk....Morris Cadillac 440-777-7577. Ask for Mike Gabel. They cant give it away....we are a winter town. I made him an offer when it was new 2 years ago they wouldnt budge, now Id offer 30 and be done with it.
Tell em Florian sent ya


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BTW Morris is GMC Caddy dealer. I have no affiliation, just a satisfied customer.

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BTW Morris is GMC Caddy dealer. I have no affiliation, just a satisfied customer.

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Awesome man. I called them and I gave them a number, waiting to hear back.. THANKS
 

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brtnharv said:
I know man, I was blinded by the prize. I kept saying to myself, ok this is apparently a reputable dealer, being a mercedes benz pre-owned. I was totally wrong. :rant2:

Best wishes man. Hope you get what your looking for.

If we have an that come in, as a trade in, or anything....and they LOOK GREAT,...i'll let you know.

Jamie Wells
Vera Cadillac/Hummer/Saturn or Pembroke Pines
Motorsport Division
[email protected]
 

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Maybe our friendly forum member can run the vin #:rolleyes:

1G6DN57S740156262
You mean carfax? Yes I forgot to mention that, I ran it and it came back spotless. This was done before I even called those f'ers.
 

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VIN : 1G6DN57S740156262

VEHICLE INFORMATION Merchandising Model : 6DN69 -2004 CTS-V Warranty Start Date : 02/12/2004 BARS Order Type : 60 - RETAIL - SOLD Delivering Dealer : HENNESSY CADILLAC
3377 SATELLITE BLVD
DULUTH , GA 30096-4642
(770) 680-7000
Selling Source : 12 - CADILLAC Site Code : 25025 Business Associate Code : 119121 Service Contract : No Branded Title : No Warranty Block : No PDI Status : Paid

REQUIRED FIELD ACTIONS Type Number Description Posted Date Status

RC 04043 LOWER CONTROL ARM WASHER N/A Closed
RC 04068 FUEL FEED JUMPER PIPE ASSEMBLY - REPLACE N/A Closed
RC 05004 INADVERTENT DRIVER AIRBAG DEPLOY WHEN IGNITION KEY TURNED TO ON POSITION 05/13/2005 Open

SERVICE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS Vehicle Has No Current Record Of Outstanding Service Information

ON STAR AND XM SATELLITE RADIO INFORMATION OnStar Equipped Yes OnStar Status Inactive Refer to Help page for details or: www.onstarenrollment.com or (888)ONSTAR1 (888)667-8271 XM Equipped Yes XM Radio ID LREN30H7 XM Status Inactive Refer to Help page for details or: www.gm.xmradio.com or (800)556-3600

APPLICABLE WARRANTIES Description Effective Date Effective Odometer End Date End Odometer
48/50000 BUMPER TO BUMPER 02/12/2004 26 miles 02/12/2008 50026 miles
72/100000 SHEET METAL COVERAGE RUST THROUGH 02/12/2004 26 miles 02/12/2010 100026 miles
96/80000 FEDERAL EMISSION CATALYTIC CONV. AND PCM 02/12/2004 26 miles 02/12/2012 80026 miles
48/50000 FEDERAL EMISSION 02/12/2004 26 miles 02/12/2008 50026 miles

CLAIM HISTORY R.O Date R.O Number Type Labor Operation Odometer Reading
03/01/2005 226473 # V1232 - 04043 - INSPECT AND REPLACE BOTH FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARM ( 12423 miles
03/01/2005 226473 # V1228 - 04068 - REPLACE FF JUMPER PIPE ASSEMBLY 12423 miles
03/01/2005 226473 # Z7903 - 3-DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 12423 miles
03/01/2005 226473 # R0950 - SPEAKER, RADIO - REAR DOOR - RIGHT - REPLACE 12423 miles
01/30/2004 A56262 I Z7000 - PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION - BASE TIME 0 miles
 

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heavymetals said:
Maybe our friendly forum member can run the vin #:rolleyes:

1G6DN57S740156262
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here we go...

for THAT vin.

car was inspected on 1/30/2004

3/01/2005 the right door speaker was replaced

3/1/2005 replace the fuel jumper (fuel rail ) recall I am guessing

3/1/2005 they replaced both front lower control arms..dunno why but, it was covered by the factory.

on 5/13/2005 ticket says STILL OPEN....kinda weird...but..it says "inadvertent driver airbag deploy when ignition key is turned to on position".... Not sure if that is the AIR BAG RECALL...or if the car had/has a problem. Either way, weird wording.

Would you like to know the options? :lildevil:

It has had the lower control arm washer replaced
 

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VIN : 1G6DN57S740156262

VEHICLE INFORMATION Merchandising Model : 6DN69 -2004 CTS-V Warranty Start Date : 02/12/2004 BARS Order Type : 60 - RETAIL - SOLD Delivering Dealer : HENNESSY CADILLAC
3377 SATELLITE BLVD
DULUTH , GA 30096-4642
(770) 680-7000
Selling Source : 12 - CADILLAC Site Code : 25025 Business Associate Code : 119121 Service Contract : No Branded Title : No Warranty Block : No PDI Status : Paid

REQUIRED FIELD ACTIONS Type Number Description Posted Date Status

RC 04043 LOWER CONTROL ARM WASHER N/A Closed
RC 04068 FUEL FEED JUMPER PIPE ASSEMBLY - REPLACE N/A Closed
RC 05004 INADVERTENT DRIVER AIRBAG DEPLOY WHEN IGNITION KEY TURNED TO ON POSITION 05/13/2005 Open

SERVICE INFORMATIONAL ITEMS Vehicle Has No Current Record Of Outstanding Service Information

ON STAR AND XM SATELLITE RADIO INFORMATION OnStar Equipped Yes OnStar Status Inactive Refer to Help page for details or: www.onstarenrollment.com or (888)ONSTAR1 (888)667-8271 XM Equipped Yes XM Radio ID LREN30H7 XM Status Inactive Refer to Help page for details or: www.gm.xmradio.com or (800)556-3600

APPLICABLE WARRANTIES Description Effective Date Effective Odometer End Date End Odometer
48/50000 BUMPER TO BUMPER 02/12/2004 26 miles 02/12/2008 50026 miles
72/100000 SHEET METAL COVERAGE RUST THROUGH 02/12/2004 26 miles 02/12/2010 100026 miles
96/80000 FEDERAL EMISSION CATALYTIC CONV. AND PCM 02/12/2004 26 miles 02/12/2012 80026 miles
48/50000 FEDERAL EMISSION 02/12/2004 26 miles 02/12/2008 50026 miles

CLAIM HISTORY R.O Date R.O Number Type Labor Operation Odometer Reading
03/01/2005 226473 # V1232 - 04043 - INSPECT AND REPLACE BOTH FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARM ( 12423 miles
03/01/2005 226473 # V1228 - 04068 - REPLACE FF JUMPER PIPE ASSEMBLY 12423 miles
03/01/2005 226473 # Z7903 - 3-DAY COURTESY TRANSPORTATION 12423 miles
03/01/2005 226473 # R0950 - SPEAKER, RADIO - REAR DOOR - RIGHT - REPLACE 12423 miles
01/30/2004 A56262 I Z7000 - PRE-DELIVERY INSPECTION - BASE TIME 0 miles


Yeah...pretty much what these guys wrote.:sneaky:

 

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brtnharv said:
You mean carfax? Yes I forgot to mention that, I ran it and it came back spotless. This was done before I even called those f'ers.



word to the wise.....I had a 1997 Cobra...I knocked the front end off the car:lildevil: ...replaced everything,..honestly, like new, it was REBUILT by BILL KEENER,....a race car fabricator that worked at Ford part time....anyways,..it took 3 months, and $15,000 in insurance receipts....and NOTHING SHOWED UP ON CARFAX....ever.

Careful bro..I wouldnt always trust that thing.

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Brutal.

I'll be in the market for a new V , but only after I've saved a few more nickels.

Unfortunately, while I generally purchase cars used after someone else has taken the depreciation hit, the V is one that I'll need to own from the get go.

I don't think there are many V owners who take it easy on their rides, many do run them hard but keep them clean, as opposed to your experience, but they are probably all run pretty hard as opposed to other executive sedans coming off leases.

Hopefully you'll find something local soon!

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- The tranny rattled and clunked through every shift.
- The motor vibrated through the cabin, literally it vibrated your ass
- The motor also sounded like something was wrong with it....by this time i was so pissed I i gave up.
The tranny rattles and clunks on all of our V's.
The motor does vibrate the whole car, including your ass.
Not sure what made the motor sound bad but mine makes sweet music!

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I certainly wouldn't take one with so many interior imperfections. Hang in there, I'm sure you'll find your V soon!
 

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The tranny rattles and clunks on all of our V's.
The motor does vibrate the whole car, including your ass.
Not sure what made the motor sound bad but mine makes sweet music!

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. I certainly wouldn't take one with so many interior imperfections. Hang in there, I'm sure you'll find your V soon!
I was going to say the same thing. If my V clunked like it does when I first picked it up, I'd swear something was wrong. As forthe cell phone antenna, it is an '04, right? Every '04 had a big square XM antenna and a seperate mast antenna attached to the rear window for Onstar.

But for the filth and bald tires, yeah, I'd be pissed too.
 
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