I'm sure a few people would be interested in this. Deff worth saving.
Good work.

Tony

 

Thank you.

 

Excellent post, thanks!

 

nice writeup, thanks. We'll probably save a few bucks on this one!

I am got my first sse warning while driving straight ahead yesterday. this may come in handy down the road...of course gmpp might cover it, but I dont feel like leaving it for a week long joyride so they can "duplicate" the issue.

 

Straight to the FAQ!!

Jcc, are these symptoms as well.. TC randomly engaging followed by complete TC/Stability failure. followed by "service stability system soon". TC light and ABS idiot lights ON and don't turn off until restart...

anyone ever here of failures like this?? any ideas

 

Thank you everyone for the kind words.

As for your symptoms I have never had the TC or ABS LIGHTS come on. The ABS would grab a wheel every now and again and scare the living crap out of me! But no lights, the warning however is exactly on par with the SWPS issue, I would look further into it though before saying SWPS for sure.

Another note to add is that I noticed when I was starting a gentle right curve on the road it would most frequently kick on. This is not always the case though as others report that it happens when going straight (CadzillaTN for one). This is what led me to believe it was the steering sensor for sure though rather than any thought about the YAW sensor.

Straight to the FAQ!!

JCC, are these symptoms as well.. TC randomly engaging followed by complete TC/Stability failure. followed by "service stability system soon". TC light and ABS idiot lights ON and don't turn off until restart...

anyone ever here of failures like this?? any ideas

Any other information about your issue? Does the ABS grab a wheel sometimes? (Brake for a milisecond then release)

 

second the FAQ add on

 

Excellent writeup!! :2thumbs:

Mine is doing this same thing (stabiltrak engaged -or whatever) and it feels like the brakes are applied but not violently, and it drives me insane. Are there certain codes that will pop up to tell which sensor (either steering column or YAW) it would be? Or does the message have to be on the DIC at that particular time?

I tried banging on my steering wheel and 99% it won't go off. But it mostly goes off on long distances (straight lines).

 

Excellent writeup!! :2thumbs:

Mine is doing this same thing, and it drives me insane. Are there certain codes that will pop up to tell which sensor it would be? Or does the message have to be on the DIC at that particular time?

I tried banging on my steering wheel and 99% it won't go off. But it mostly goes off on long distances (straight lines).

From what I have READ the banging on the steering wheel is only when the dealer has the Tech II hooked up to it to see if they are getting funny readings. I did not have mine checked out by the dealer so as for codes I have no clue. I can tell you that (from reading also) that the "codes" can only be read if the "Service Stability System" message pops up and you do NOT hit "Ok". No codes will be stored on the "Stability System Engaged" or whatever it says that just goes off in a few seconds regardless of you pressing "Ok" or not.

For the $90 dollars I took the chance and got lucky I would say yours is probably the same as mine but its a slight gamble. (I was pretty comfortable calling it the SWPS failure because of it coming on when turning right). Yours being in a straight line though is less conclusive IMHO. G/L if your ABS is grabbing then you know it is annoying and scary as heck!

edit/ You edited before I could post so some of my info may seem stupid.

 

Thanks for the excellent writeup! :highfive:

 

I'm going to try this....thanks for the excellent writeup! Pics rule

 

G/L! Hit me up if you get snagged up at the email above, I should respond within the hour.

 

Excellent writeup. I was wondering if this problem occured on sharp turns. I get a stabilitrack message when I pull into my driveway 3 out of 10 times and am wondering if this is my problem.

thanks

 

Interesting, actually mine is the opposite, at low speeds and sharp turns it would NOT engage. However at high speeds (80+) and slight bends in the highway it would...Hmmm G/L don't know if your SWPS is bad or not.

 

I followed the install tonight. Seems to be working great. Thanks for the pictures.

 

You are welcome! Glad it worked for you.:thumbsup:

 

I don't get "stability system engaged" warning, but occasionally I get "service stability system." Both ABS and T/C lights come on in dash panel too. I have felt RF brake grabbing while turning into a parking spot, and the brake pedal feels mushy when applied. What could I determine is my issue here?

 

Its been a while so I don't remember EXACTLY what I experienced although if you read this whole thread I described it a few times. But if it is your SWPS (most likely case) then you can have a dealer (or tech II owner) hook it up and while turning the steering wheel from lock to lock "bang" on the SW and they will supposedly get "wierd" readings.

Again READ this thread I have said it before but its either your SWPS, YAW sensor, or wheel speed sensor.

 

YESSS!! THE STABILITY SERVICE AND RANDOM BRAKING WENT AWAY!!or
remember to back up driver seat as far as possible before you start so u get plenty room. my seat was up quiet a bit and i started gettin pissed off lol.
Putting the lower piece back into upper piece of the steering column at the end is an absolute p.i.t.a. i could upper portion to slide forward enough. This is probably the hardest part of the whole thing. with alot swearing, pulling and wiggling its possible by yourself.

 

Good point, you can't hook up the battery to slide it while mid job. Glad you were able to get it fixed.

 

I love this forum. I had the standard "Stability System Engaged" displays followed by "Service Stability System" display. The dealer replaced the ecbm (spelling ?) and I had the same displays pop up a day or two later. After researching the issue here, I called the dealership and gave them the "diagnosis" of the problem.

I took the car in today and they replaced the sensor. Supposedly fixed. At least, no displays on the way home!

Thanks, Guys!

Mike

 

I love this forum.

Me too! Glad you got it fixed I know I was EXTREMELY worried I would be chasing wires forever when mine went out.

 

Thanks for the thread, i just got my christmas surprise: "service stability system"

 

Your welcome and I am sorry to hear that. Although let it "marinate" for a while and be certain it is the SWPS as others have reported the same problems with the wheel speed sensors and one other member also had his YAW sensor go out. Good luck getting her fixed, I drove mine for a while until it really started to pop up a lot.

 

Is this process described here close or identical to replacing SWPS on 01 Seville SLS? I'm only slightly mechanicaly inclined, but this seems doable with your fantastic instructions.

 

Thank you. Someone else would have to answer that question though. I know the corvettes of our years are the same but I don't know about other Caddys. G/L.

 

My stability control is making me crazy!!!!!! I have to do this soon!

Thanks for the write up

 

This is a common problem on the TBSS/97x Aero. My girlfriend's SAAB does this same thing. What triggers it is the steering wheel not being straight when it was last turned off. So when you pull into a parking spot and leave the wheel turned the next startup will trigger that light and bug the crap out of you.

 

Great post!! It helped me change my SWPS. Thanks!

 

Thanks for this! We did mine over the weekend and this helped a bunch!

Np guys. Glad it worked for you.

 

I might be replacing my SWPS. I'm getting like the exact symptoms of the OP, so I'm debating replacing the sensor rather than taking it in for the 90 dollar diagnosis.

 

Well after having the car about a month a handful of times the engaged light came on the DIC. Then tonight for the first time the service stability came on and stayed on till I hit ok. Looks like I will be doing this as well I also heard it could be the YAW sensor but I have not seen any crazy readings on my g meter in the car.

 

Thanks for this! We did mine over the weekend and this helped a bunch!

 

Another bump for posting this. I've been getting the "service steering, stability and vehicle soon" warnings along with the abs, t/c and parking brake light all staying on when I start the car and sometimes mid drive. I'm hoping this is the culprit. I used this guide to put the new swps in tonight, which took about 1 1/2 hrs. Another set of hands helps. Upon first start I still got all the lights, but after one restart everything went off and stayed off for the test drive. We'll see tomorrow if its a fix. Thanks again!

 

Well I decided to try the V before leaving for work today. Sure enough!!! All the warning lights STILL COME ON. WTF!!!! Guess it's time to go get it scanned.....Arghhhh. Glad this isn't my daily. Getting fustrated.

 

I got an alignment today after replacing the front lower control arms Friday night.

Suddenly "service stability system" is on. It wasn't on when I took it to them, I'm hoping they'll make it right.

 

@JCC: I'm a little late in posting this, but I followed your DIY about a month ago and it has cured the Stability System issues. Thanks for taking the time - it has saved me(and a few others it seams) a lot of time and $$. If your ever in SoCal, drinks are on me!