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Democrats and liberals are ecstatic that President Bush has finally faced his moment of accountability. The travails of Hurricane Katrina followed a bad summer for the president and have called into question his leadership style, competence and intense partisanship.

But Democrats are less ecstatic about . . . Democrats. Over the past several weeks, it was impossible not to run into Bush critics who would shake their heads and complain: "Yes, but where are the Democrats? Who are our leaders? What do they have to say?"

The critiques come from the left ("Why can't Democrats stand up and be counted?") and from the center ("We'll never win if we look like liberal ideologues"). And almost every day Democrats seem to give their critics evidence of division. The party splintered over the nomination of John Roberts as chief justice. The newspaper Roll Call reported yesterday that some House Democrats were opposing the decision by their leader, Nancy Pelosi, to boycott a Republican-led investigation of the Katrina disaster. Pelosi favors an independent commission. You know the party has a problem when even the politics of Katrina divides its members. A spokesman for Pelosi confirmed some differences yesterday but said that "the vast majority of members support her decision to boycott."

Criticisms of the Democrats are usually personalized: This or that leader is said to be inadequate, or the party as a whole is said to lack "guts," "gumption" and "clarity." Defenses of the party are also personalized: No party can expect to be led by figures from its congressional minority, and the 2008 presidential election is too far away to produce clear alternative leaders.

But the party's problems are structural and can be explained by three numbers: 21, 34 and 45. According to the network exit polls, 21 percent of the voters who cast ballots in 2004 called themselves liberal, 34 percent said they were conservative and 45 percent called themselves moderate.

Those numbers mean that liberal-leaning Democrats are far more dependent than conservatively inclined Republicans on alliances with the political center. Democrats second-guess themselves because they have to.
 
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Man, the fiction here is so much better than anything coming out of Hollywood!
 

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They are in disarray scourge. They are being led by the extremists like Dean, Moore, and Feinstein/Pelosi (sp?).

If they ever want to win a presidential election, they're going to have to go with a real middle-of-the-road guy, like Wes Clark, Zell Miller (who I think could get some Republican votes, obviously:devil: ), and the new guy Brian Schweitzer, who was elected governor of Montana. I think HE would be a very good choice, but not for the next election, hes too new. But he's the guy the democrats have needed for a long time. He's good because hes a maverick and doesn't follow the ultra-liberal national leadership...
 
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Being Republican-Lite will never win elections for the Democrats. Further, Democrats are not nearly so in disarray as fools like HRS would have you beleive. Yes, there is a new generation of Democrats coming up ready for a change in the guard, but to suggest that Democrats are running around like chickens with their heads cut off is incorrect.

Dean and Moore are not extremists and you would know that if you actually bothered to educate yourself about them rather than just blindly accept the pablum from the "Liberal Media". Don't be like the rest of the herd. You'll be forever criticized for leaving the rest of the cattle, but I think it was worth it.

Finally, I find people like HRS quite sad. They are so full of hate withoput an ounce of humanity. All they care about is destroying good men and women who happen to have a "D" in front of their name while forgiving all evil and corruption of those with an "R" in front of their name. They are no different than the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail where reality cuts them to pieces while they continue to talk smake in a desperate attempt to feel manly.
 

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What I find very telling about the current leadership of the Democratic party, is how many of them stayed away from Cindy the Socialists traveling circus this weekend.

Why should the president meet with her, if those who claim they oppose the war and hate the president won't even be seen with her? :hmm:
 

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Things that make you go; "Hmmm...."
 
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