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CTS-V Ticket Tales: care to share?

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I'm curious what experience others have had getting tickets (moving violations; parking tickets don't count) in their Vs (presumably for speeding). Were you able to talk your way out of it? More importantly, what measures are you taking to avoid tickets (beyond just "eyes wide open")...radar detectors?
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Got a ticket in Summersville, WV driving back to Charlotte from a Steelers game last year.:( Car was a week old and I didn't even have my registration yet - just the bill of sale. No nothing from the officer, all business. See, they run a crazy ass speed trap in Summersville - it is clearly their main source of revenue. Divided highway, just got through construction, wasn't sure what the speed limit was (figured either 55 or 65 - that's what it was on the way up) so I am driving 60. See the cop:cop: and I don't even think twice, as I figure I'm 5 over at the most. He gives me a ticket for 60 in a 45:wtf:. 1/4th mile up the road - with no change in conditions, it becomes a 65. So I am pissed at this stupid town and figure I will come back to fight the ticket:brutal: - the court day is the day before Thanksgiving and I figure he will never show - but it is a 6 hour drive from home. I read the back of the ticket - you can take an online course to get this dismissed. I took the course - it was a joke - one of the tougher multiple choice questions was "What color is a stop sign?":jawdrop: - I am a much safer driver now due to this course. Cost me about $150:ripped:, I think and they toss the ticket if you take the course - the 1st time, at least.
Moral of the story: You may speed like hell thru Summersville because you can pay your money to get out of it. Next time, that officer is gonna earn his pay - I will DESERVE :burn:the next ticket I get there!:)

Oh yeah, instant on radar went off but I ignored it - as I really didn't think I was speeding - not at that point, at least.
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If you do a search, you'll find a fellow member who has gone thru an unbelieveable situation for doing a spirited run with the wife in the car at 100+ mph. That thread takes the cake. That made me choose to cruise. I think I'm going to patent that, "Choose to Cruise". :D
1)145 mph speeding ticket
2)Felony evading Arrest
3)3 counts of reckless endangerment
4)Driving on a suspended liscense
5)No seatbelt
Total= $1300, 2 wekends in jail, and cops pulling over my car even when I'm not driving it.
Outrunning a state trooper= Priceless
Having them come to your house and get you afterwards= See steps 1 thru 5:bang2:
Were you driving the V when that all happened? Did the guy have a video camera in his car? My last ticket was 90 in a 40. My girlfriend got the same thing, hehe we were racing. It really wasn't a pretty sight. Basically we were coming home from class, and were doin some spirited driving down some twisty back roads (impossible to really be doing 90). WE rolled through a stop sign, where the cop was hiding and sped off. At the trun to her development she stopped unknowingly aloowing the cop to catch us. He kinda went past us, slammed on his brakes creating huge skidmarks in the road. He came up to my car screaming- seriously had snot coming out of his nose. Her father still isn't over that 4 years later.
"4 speeding tickets and counting" :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
I got the V in March of this year and had my first speeding ticket by April (37 in a 25) and also got a ticket in Wyoming in July driving home from Rapid City, SD to Denver (87 in a 65). So that is two tickets in roughly 3 months. NOT GOOD, especially since my insurance hasn't dropped because I am not 25 yet - one year to go.
Driving back from Virginia International Raceway and I had my Valentine in the console since I was told they confiscate these things in Virginia. Got nailed by a State Trooper for 70 in a 55. But I did my no-sir, yes-sir bit and before he wrote the ticket he asked, "Is your speedometer working correctly?" Picking up on this, I answered, "Perhaps not." He then wrote me a ticket for a faulty speedometer, which was only a $35 ticket plus $50 court costs (which I paid on line). Much cheaper than a speeding ticket and no report back to my home state of NJ.
Tweeter, in NJ ins doesn't drop untill after 30, I asked when I got ins last year (see post on ins prices).

Sefa- NJ sux for their damn point system AND the NJ-AISC. This is the Insurance surcharge. If you get more then one moving violation, DWI, or something along these lines they slap you with this, $50 per point! rust me it adds up, and you have to pay for three years after getting the points. (only 3 left!!)
ahahnu said:
Sefa- NJ sux for their damn point system AND the NJ-AISC. This is the Insurance surcharge. If you get more then one moving violation, DWI, or something along these lines they slap you with this, $50 per point! rust me it adds up, and you have to pay for three years after getting the points. (only 3 left!!)
That's why I'm very careful in NJ. I only got one ticket in the past 10 years here and it was ridiculous--a car was waiting for a parking spot in the center of Westwood and, with no traffic coming the other way, I went around him. Cop charges me with crossing double line--a 4 point violation. However, prosecutor allowed me to plead down to 0 points. There's a statute that allows you to do this once every 3 years. I believe it is 4-97.2
Well, I'm fairly new to Colorado so I don't know how the insurance system works here, but either way, I am anxiously awaiting my 25 birthday, hopefully I won't need to wait until the 30th. Also, it sounds like we have a lot of people here on the forum who love to drive in a "spirited manner," I say if you have 400 hp, use it.
sefa01 said:
That's why I'm very careful in NJ. I only got one ticket in the past 10 years here and it was ridiculous--a car was waiting for a parking spot in the center of Westwood and, with no traffic coming the other way, I went around him. Cop charges me with crossing double line--a 4 point violation. However, prosecutor allowed me to plead down to 0 points. There's a statute that allows you to do this once every 3 years. I believe it is 4-97.2
Its called the Unsafe Drivers Statue, you pleed to it, pay them something like 200-300 bucks, its point-less, and we all go home happy.
Driving at speeds beyond the posted limit is obviously against the law. There is however, plenty of subjectivity tied to what level of "safety" can be associated with driving below, at, or above the posted limit. To participate as a reasonable member of society, we all recognize that there needs to be some boundaries. If one should overstep, then one must understand and accept the consequences of their choice.

That being said, I think most V owners would agree with me that when we decided to possess one of these high performance machines, we were pretty much expecting to be spending varying amounts of time "over" the "limit". But I also believe that we understand that the capabilities of this vehicle are greater and thus in many respects "safer" than the majority of other transportation modes on the road. The timing and level of respect paid to the V's capabilities, your own level of driving expertise, the conditions at hand, other motorist and yes, "the law" are the difference between a safe V driver with a clean or nearly clean DMV record and one with "issues".

With respect to KTSwanson's inquiry about other measures to take besides a good radar detector (absolute neccessity) and eyes wide open, my best advice follows. It has worked well and is applied with the knowledge that the V is capable of very high speeds, but those should be saved for the track. Even so, those of us that drive one know that we will be exercising a "spirited" pace at times. Here goes my defense plan:

On the expressway, the opportunity to cut time to your destination (or just enjoy the V's charms) is when you can judge with high confidence that certain elements are predictable with regard to outcome. Fundamental Element - Visual Awarness. What you can't see can hurt you. Instant-On will tag you almost every time. So if you want to push it, the first rule is never use your cruise control at a setting over 4 MPH above the posted limit.

Next rule is have some light traffic present. John law will be looking periodically at targets as they become available. If your the only schmuck on the road, your also the only "bait". Better to get a detector chirp from the dude ahead of you then when the beam is bouncing off YOUR mesh grill! Enhancement of this principle is the exploitation of a "rabbit". When someone else wants to go fast, hang behind close enough to maintain visual contact, but far enough to get a warning when he gets "shot". This rule is absolutely essential at night, when your vision is dramatically reduced. In fact, travelling more than 5mph over the limit at night without a rabbit is pretty much asking for it. I think this is where many make the mistake of relying on the detector to much.

Next rule is to coast it down towards the limit when you are approaching potential "targeting" sites or "traps". Cresting a hill or overpass, closing in on a connecting access lane (usually marked with a small sign telling you that only authorized vehicle may use it), a bend in the road that shortens your sight-line, an overpass bridge with a nice concrete supporting structure that will hide a police cruiser, all common and well used examples. Another area to pay attention to is the on-ramp. ALWAYS check your rear veiw mirror as you pass by EVERY on-ramp to assess the threat of any vehicle that will now be following you. Which brings up the next rule...

Make it a HABIT to check your mirror every 15 - 20 seconds, more often as traffic density increases. A LOT of tickets result not from radar but from an officer pacing the violator from behind for SEVERAL MILES. Don't let ANYBODY sneak up on you, always be aware of your surroundings. That means you need to constantly "check your six" - who's back there?

Another rule is to constantly assess the probability of vehicles travelling both in your direction, and in the opposite bound lanes as to weather or not they may be traffic enforcement types. If it looks like a cop car, it probably is. Emergency Light bars or bubbles are obvious, but there are plenty of stealthy plain jane squads on the road to decieve and surprise. Look for typical paint schemes and markings, decals, spotter lamps mounted next ot the OSRV mirror, extra anttena, wider than usuall tires, government issued license plates, hardware in the vehicle interior such as lights or mesh barriers. All are signals to watch for. The tough ones are the special issue high speed pursuit units that are often very nondescript. These guys are after YOU. Hope they don't ever use the V for this duty, It would be a major WTF.

We have all read about, seen on TV or heard details about elaborate speed traps (such as "highway workers" with hand helds). This is a matter of personal suspicion and proximity to a known location that has exercised this tactic in the past. Not the standard method, but it could happen. Better to make sure if your not willing to find out when you see the County's Finest bearing down from behind.

Last note here, some enforcement locals will utilize surveillance aircraft. If you witness a small airplane or helicopter flying parrallel to the roadway, it might just be timing your progress to determine your rate of speed. Get clear before you put the extra effort on the go pedal.

Next Fundemental Element - Interaction with other motorist. Don't underestimate the potential for some PO'd guy to route a call to the nearest authorities 'cause you just blew by him at a speed differential that is more than half the limit. Point here is - do not be excessive. When you suddenly appear out of nowhere, it can and does rattle other drivers. Some people might even loose control of their vehicle in extreme cases. And you never know when someone is going to merge into the passing lane WITHOUT checking their mirror properly. Another chance for an unsuspecting motorist to swerve or have a major lane departure.

The way to do it is to overtake other vehicles at a rate where you can take safe evasive action if neccessary, and also don't tick off the other guy as if you were some speed crazed adolescent. Once you clear you can lower the hammer until the next challenge. This method allows a safer transition when mingling with the traffic. There is no reason to not remain courteous, plenty of reason to remain alert.

While on this topic - careful with the tailgating or sending the "move-out-of-my-way" signals that we all send. Believe me I am the King of Frustration with all the left-hand-lane morons out there. Unfortunately, this is not the German Autobahn we are using, it is the US interstate. Remember, anyone with a cell phone and a tag number could ruin your day. Be patient.

With regard to driving over the posted limit on secondary roads, the above applies, but the variation in where the enforcement is and how they operate increases the risk of being pulled over and cited. There are of course additional risks related to the overall environment that need to be considered and respected. As far as city streets, thats asking for it as well.

These are just a few tips that come to mind. I can't say that I've never been ticketed for speed violations 'cause I have. But its been very rare over a 30 year span of driving, and when I have, it's because I violated one or more of the above. You can drive the V on public roads and enjoy it's high capability without exploring it's limits or risking injury to yourself or others - just respect the conditions of the moment and leave room for error.

BTW, zero tickets in the V, put on 6000 miles from mid April to end of October (car is in storage now until 4/06). I have routinely made 240 mile trip from my drive west of Lansing MI to the other side of Mackinac Bridge in under three hours safely and without incident. The V doesn't attract attention from the law like a few other cars with this performance level, so that helps too.

Interested to hear comments and contributions, none of this is exceptional, just basic common sense. The trick is to make it part of your driving habit, as it results in a more aware and prepared pilot, as well as getting more enjoyment out of your driving experience.
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Most of tickets I've received, and it hasn't been many, have come about because i had a sense of false confidence or just plainly stopped paying attention. I agree with VMach. I find myself doing alot of the common sense things he points out and most of us probably do. My last ticket was for doing 61 in a 35 construction zone with workers present. I was messing with radio and forgot that speed zone was coming up. Cost me $154. Now I pay attention, for now... When I see rabbits, I call them Pathfinders, I let them run about 1/4 mile out front to pick up the troopers. When I find a country road that I might want to run on, I go down it to check for cops and traffic density and then come back trying to max perform.
88 in a 70 last month.Plead innocent,will go to traffic court the 22nd of dec.I will change my plea if the officer shows up and pay the fine.I did this on an entry ramp and he was under the overpass.He heard and saw the whole thing,i'm glad he hit his lights before I got to the interstate because it was gonna get worse,I was ready to hit forth then fifth.
None...thanks to my Valentine 1. I have been really really close about 8 times!
These are some great suggestions; thanks. VMACHYN should submit his treatise to Car and Driver or Road and Track...!
Greetings, gentleman,

VMACHYN's comments were excellent. May I add a few of my own? My ladyfriend lives in Canada, and I, in upstate NY. During the commute of two hours, I do three things to minimize the chances for an unpleasant outcome, should there be an encounter with "officer friendly." :cool2:

1 - Know the road: over time, one develops an understanding of likely spots to go fast, or go slow.

2 - Wear a tie, and have a jacket hanging in the back. They do not know you, but they will make a judgement based on what they see. (I speculate that this also helps me at the border.)

3 - Radar detectors are frowned upon, but I always travel with a G-Tech pro mounted, regardless of what I am driving. The first question always is, "Do you know why I stopped you?" The answer is, "You probably thought I had an illegal radar detector, but this is a ..." (Reason: shift light.)

The objective is to minimize the encounter. Good luck.

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just got one last week 94 in a 60 florida highway patrol a airplane
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