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I was at my local cadillac dealership yesterday getting my navigation unit replaced in my 07 v.

My salesman informed me that the v was discontinued and showed me some GMAC documentation to prove it. Is this true?
 

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It could be possible since now obama has announced the min 33.5mpg standard by 2016. It will take all car manufacturers SERIOUS money & time to work to those standards by such a short time. Scott said production wont start until July 17. So we should all know around the beginning of July indefinitley if the V will survive or it will become one of the shortest lived production vehicles ever.
 

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I am hearing this is going to be bad for us big truck owners too that like the 2500 and 3500 series too.

If anyone is looking for a V that should do it now.
 

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While it wouldn't surprise me, I also wouldn't be surprised if they kept it. The hard reality is that there is, and probably will continue to be, a very high demand for high performance automobiles. The aftermarket industry alone is still a multi-billion dollar industry and many of those mods are go-fast goodies.

What would infuriate me, especially as a go-fast enthusiast, would be an attempt to completely eliminate such market. Anyone who supports this should be summarily stabbed in the head.

In my mind, just because Obama is looking to increase the average MPG significantly does not, in and of itself, mean the demise of high-performance automobiles. Firstly, it's an average. Also, too many vehicles get REALLY had gas mileage and DON'T make up for it in performance. In my mind, if I'm going to get crappy gas mileage, then I better have a high-HP car! Unfortunately, truck owners, you might get slammed here, as well as many "normal" cars that suck (like my mom's Ford 500--what a piece of sh*t--no power AND crappy gas mileage! :mad:)
 

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That standard is an average for all the cars the manufacturer makes. Besides that does anyone here really think the design for an 09 CTS-V is still going to be in production by 2016 if nothing were changed ? 5 years is a pretty standard run for a particular design before things change. So unless they simply want to kill it, the design can still be produced through the 2014 year model and then end production on a "normal" cycle without touching the 2016 standards.
 

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GM has proven it can provide great performance and great efficiency. I was getting an average of 24-28 hwy in my Z06 (C5). The V is different because it is a "guzzler" and this is something that GM has actively tried to avoid (in its cars anyway) for years. This is why they introduced the 1-4 skip shift in their performance cars and the valet key (cutting off half of the injectors) in the original ZR1.

In the current political climate I don't personally see anyway for GM to support any gas guzzling car while the company cannot stand on its own two feet. Also, with cars like the Corvette being as efficient as they are, the V stands out more and more like a sore thumb. This is one of the main reasons I bought when I did.

If the V brand does survive (over the next several years) I cannot see it remaining the full bore supercharged LSA (unless they come up with some crazy engine management), perhaps a close derivative with a lower consumption NA motor and a tall overdrive like they've used in years past. Maybe not for 2010, but soon I would guess if not canceled altogether.

Its all speculative at this point but I suspect that the Vs days are very limited.
 

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Doesn't surprise me either. Anytime GM has had a hit on their hands, they stop making them. I remember when Chevy dealers couldn't keep the 1994-1996 Impala SS on dealer lots and the demand was huge. What did GM do? GM cut production of the Caprice/Impala SS to produce higher profit trucks leaving those out in the cold that wanted the B-body vehicles. It makes business sense, but it doesn't keep owner loyalty where it needs to be.

GM spent all that R&D, testing money to produce the CTS-V and they won't be able to re-coop the costs. How is that a smart decision? The CTS-V is too low volume of a car to make a dent in GM's revenue. They need to make more of them in order to cut production costs and increase profits.

I guess this is good for those of us that already have the CTS-V. It may mean higher resale value and more of a specialty vehicle.

Here in L.A. which is the car capital of the world, I have only seen a couple of the 09 Vs, so I know dealers here don't really have them and there are so few of them out here, I can go months without seeing another one besides mine.

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If indeed the V is discontinued, when will the production numbers for the 09 V be made public

Wait at your own peril
 

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Discontinuing the V doesn't make any sense at this time. If they did (and I'll wait for a 100% offical announcement... not a rumor), I'd find an '09 (plenty around) and if that didn't work, I'd look at an M3. So, they gain absolutely nothing by discontinuing the current CTS-V... they need to recover R&D costs + the car is selling.
 

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I'm telling you there will not be a 2010 v. The government is to involved now and will not allow a car with that gas mileage.
 

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I agree with the "get one while you can" statement. You never know what will happen. While it will be unlikely for all high performance vehicles to be cut, I think some will not find their way into 2010. Regardless of how great a car this is, if GM had to choose between keeping the V or the corvette I am positive the V would be gone.

The amount of $ spent on R&D means nothing, that is money already gone by the wayside, and moving forward they will need to look at where they can make the most profit and what vehicles they can keep inorder to gain positive the public/political perception.


I wonder how many well recieved/reviewed car/models in history have only been around for 1 year production runs?
 

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oboma is bitter he had to sell his 300C for image reasons and now he is taking it out on everyone else
ROFL! :D

But seriously....rumors like this are FUD and not to be taken seriously.

Let's think rationally. Obama's announcement indicates that a) the standard has to be reached by 2016--seven years from now--and b) "full service" carmakers will have different requirements from carmakers that make exclusively smaller, more efficient cars (aka Honda and Toyota).

What does this mean for V ownership?

The planning for the V2 likely started five years ago and the final product happened to be launched at a time of relatively low gas prices, yet with the current economic crisis....and is selling like hotcakes, as far as an expensive sports sedan can. The V can be sold for its entire run 2-3 years, maybe more, without affecting the overall GM CAFE average....it's a single model that will sell maybe 4k copies this year. I'm quite sure that has little to no effect given that GM is on its way to selling perhaps 2 million cars this year.

So I believe there will be a 2010 V and our dealers here on the forum have confirmed this already. Unless GM plans an annoucement that the V2 is gone, don't believe anything you hear.

This news is primarily for planning of new cars for five years out--the time it takes to plan for a new model. I see nothing to panic about....but then again, I already have my V, so I don't care in any case.
 

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For future CTS-V's, how about a twin turbocharged version of the 3.6L Direct Injection Engine used in the 09 CTS Sedan? Fuel economy would be great as would HP & torque and a there would be lot less weight up front. I'll bet there will be an aftermarket development for this engine especially as it will be the V-6 used in the 2010 Chevy Camaro. Remember the Buick GN of several years ago? A lot of ass got kicked by that car! Our V2 (V3) could be around for a while yet - especially if it were the CTS-V Coupe - with Carbon Fibre in selected areas to reduce body weight. There is no telling how such a machine would perform. Hey guys, all it takes is belief and imagination - that's how worlds are created.
 

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Keep up the 3/4t and up trucks, they are exempt from CAFE....

Unless he, "the annoited one" screws that up too.

I am hearing this is going to be bad for us big truck owners too that like the 2500 and 3500 series too.

If anyone is looking for a V that should do it now.
 

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Some of you guys are missing the point here. You're saying stuff like recovering R and D costs, public demand, yada, yada, yada. This is a whole new ballgame now and you can not compare it to anything else in past history. The federal government is now running two of the big three. Do you really believe that these idiots calling the shots (feds) give a S_ _ T whether or not you might want a performance vehicle? Come on now, think about it. The Feds are going to stuff shitty little eco boxes down people's throats. When that is the only type of vehicle available, then people will HAVE to buy them! I said it several months ago in my post "my gut feeling" and I still stand by my gut! The V's days are numbered........and it's not a large number.
 

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This news is primarily for planning of new cars for five years out--the time it takes to plan for a new model. I see nothing to panic about....but then again, I already have my V, so I don't care in any case.
I don't think you'll see vehicles like the V disappear. I think you may see them priced at a level that ensures they don't sell in big numbers. It would be a tragedy if GM got out of that game, they've just gotten good at it.

If times were a little better, I'd go back to suggesting that the automakers need to offer right-brain/left-brain packages. A CTS-V and a Volt, or a Viper and a Fiat 500, etc.
 
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