[FuzzyLogic]

*sigh*

Just because you have the only product presently on the market doesn't mean that you can rake us over the coals on pricing. While it's great that there's an option available for people right now, that pricing is going to absolutely guarantee that people will finish their work on alternatives. For instance, KillerNoodle's arms cost $275, and they've been absolutely bulletproof. They also came with a Ballistic Fabrication ball joint that's far more durable than any polyurethane bushing, and don't restrict movement.

That said, looking forward to a real alternative to BMR toe rods--I'm glad to see that you're working on something that's adjustable without giving your alignment guy a conniption.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

Fuzzy......I knew you'd have some negative comment waiting for the introduction of these wide wheel arms. I'm not sure why you have such an axe to grind with us, it really doesn't matter. The people that hangout here on the forum know that you are free-flowing with your opinion and also know that it's worth what you charge for it. Don't worry, you are not part of the "us" on these arms.

The adjustable, greaseable toe-rods will be discussed next week.

As I recall, I just paid you to rent your differential bushing tool for the second time because (apparently) your differential bushing either wasn't designed to fit the 4th generation differential (you claimed that the CTS-V differentials randomly have different sized mounting cups), or it failed. Either way, that's the price of two tool rentals and a bushing purchase down the tubes. I even sent it back to you to help you with your R&D. I also had to wrap your black motor mounts in lava wrap because everybody's motor mounts are still melting and tearing--even after you changed the formula. I had to throw away your shifter rail bushings because they were worse than my three-year-old UUC bushings from Luke @ Lindsay. Free advice: put a lip on both sides of the shifter bushing and it won't slide off the rails.

The above is a pretty good reason not to like you guys, but that wasn't the point of my earlier post. Nearly $500 for a set of trailing arms is too much. Period. Regardless of quality. I've ripped on a lot of vendors for high prices--Revshift, you, and D3. There's no favoritism here. If you have a good counter argument or justification for your price, make it. If not, obey the forum rules like everyone else. We're allowed to critique products.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

For people like me, who don't have access to a machine shop with proper metal working equipment something like this is a decent alternative to going full custom. I mean come on, they gotta pay to keep the lights on over there to keep building our stuff somehow. I'm pretty sure Obama isn't subsidizing car parts, just cell phones and guns to terrorists. lol

$500 + paying a shop to modify your heavy, stock wheels = $1000. A set of Team Dynamics wheels = $1200. Plus you get to keep your old ones.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

Thanks Fuzzy, for reporting me to the admins as an advertising spammer which in-turn got this thread deleted. You are of the highest caliber.

Thank You Submariner409 for your understanding.

Wasn't me. If I think you're spamming, I'll say it to your face.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

Fuzzy... After re-reading your first two posts...they are not as inflammatory as I previously perceived them. If you feel that you were wronged by us or our parts, call me on Monday, I will refund every nickel including shipping. I would like to hear or re-hear your side of the story.

The shifter bushings have only one shoulder/lip (like the factory bushing) so they can be slid between the shifter rod and the mounting tube that they go in. A shoulder on each end would make it "troublesome" to install. A small picture with directions is sent with each set of shifter bushings. The shoulder of the bushing goes toward the rear of the car which captures it behind the tube that it pushes in to.

Call me on Monday, I will send you some money.

Don't worry about it. If you want to give me a break on shipping when I need a 8.8" kit (assuming 54inches hasn't made his kit available to the world by then), I'll take you up on that.

I'm largely following in PISNUOFF's footsteps with a 427 LSx iron block build, except that I'm going the "very large supercharger" route and he's doing the "very large turbocharger(s)" route. Heads, compression, and a few other things will vary, but what's certain is the stock rear end is living on borrowed time. Hence, an iron differential housing, carbon fiber driveshaft, and full axles are in my future.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

and fuzzy man what is your deal ?
90% of what you post is bad mouthing someone or a new product. We are a very small community here and we need to welcom any and all owners and companys that are willing to invest in our car
If you dont like the price then go buy the tools and build your own

90% of what I post is technical. It is the responsibility of educated, conscientious consumers to identify potential price gouging and request equitable prices, especially in underrepresented markets where corporate social responsibility (CSR) is not actively being monitored.

In particular, this research shows that CSR leads to outcomes such as increased customer loyalty, willingness to pay premium prices, and lower reputational risks in times of crisis. [1,2,3] Each of these marketing outcomes in turn has the potential to support increased profitability.

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/corpgo...ial-responsibility-to-enhance-customer-value/

If you're reading an antagonizing tone into my posts, please note that it only exists in your head. The way I see it, this kind of critique only makes our vendors and the CTS-V community at large stronger by building honesty and trust (where trust can be had) between members. Does drama erupt from time to time? Absolutely. But the alternative--a community that only exists to pat each other's backs--is far worse.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

they could make a version of these for a golf/jetta ( or any other vehicle with large production numbers who tend to mod) and sell 10k sets of these parts maybe even at this price.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1502686,parttype,7504

 

[FuzzyLogic]

Honestly I have been following this thread for about a year. From my observation, Fuzzy is a very condescending and opinionated person. He thinks he is never wrong and everything he does is the only way anything should be done. Its quite annoying. Plus hes got a huge hard on for revshift and trys to belittle their competitors any chance he gets.

Oh? Remember how I raked them over the coals for months with questions about quality and pricing when they first produced CTS-V products? Obviously you don't. Instead of whining and complaining, Revshift proved that their products were well-engineered and worth the price. They earned the respect that they're given, but they could lose it if they made a couple of bad turns.

My only advice is that you do your homework next time before your opinions lead you to say something else that's obviously wrong. To wit:

I try my best to do sufficient research before I write anything up (recent examples: 1, 2, 3). The last thing that I want to do is provide inaccurate information that would result in wasted time or money. Engineering ethics. It has nothing to do with wanting to feel superior. It has everything to do with not wanting to be wrong or a burden. When I ask a question (recent examples: 1, 2), you'll note that I usually come to the table with research in hand because I hate being spoon-fed. The definition of "condescending" implies that I'm patronizing you. Do you feel patronized?

 

[FuzzyLogic]

Revshift's products first started to appear in the 12/2011-02/2012 timeframe. They were first discussed on this forum in 03/2012 in one of the big motor mount comparison threads.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

I have those Ballistic Fabrication joints on my Killernoodle trailing arms. Zero difference in noise over stock. If Creative Steel did those, it'd be a significant upgrade. Plus they're rebuildable and greasable.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

Any kind of moly grease should do well. If you want to get fancy, try Redline CV-2.

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-80402-Synthetic-Grease/dp/B000CPAEJA