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Bob Lutz says:
The truth is, many of our new cars and trucks are doing exceptionally well, and have met with acclaim. My recent post about HHR is but one example. But it goes beyond HHR and Solstice. The Buick Lucerne is off to a good start, generating buzz on network television and earning “Best New Car” in the $30,000 to $45,000 category from Kiplinger’s Personal Finance magazine.
The Chevy Impala continues to be a strong performer — our top-selling car for 2005 so far. Especially encouraging is the strong demand for Impala SS, with its 303-hp small-block V8, Displacement-on-Demand and 28 miles per highway gallon.The Cadillac DTS was the best-selling vehicle in the prestige luxury segment in October, outpacing the second-place BMW 5-Series by 17 percent. How many of you knew that?

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http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/archives/2005/12/a_closer_look.html
 

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You can bet your last dollar that if the best selling luxury car in America was anything OTHER than a Cadillac or a Lincoln, it WOULD MAKE FRONT PAGE NEWSPAPER PRINT !!!
 

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Not to be Captian Obvious, but it seems that car magazines are biased against american cars. But why?
 

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I dont think the 7 Series is that bad.
I never got bothered by the Bangle design on the 7 series, but on the 5 series it's another thing.
 

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Hate to rain on your parade, but the newspaper said the US auto companies are crumbling away. Ford (I think) had to lay of thousands of employees...And we all know GM laid off those 30,000 people last month.

Meanwhile, Hyundai hired thousands of AMERICANS this year in Alabama with the opening of their new plant. Sounds to me like GM just doesn't have its act together, and if they are that incompetent, I hope they crumble. Bad management and shoddy product = Americans having less than 40% of the Auto market when the Chinese finally start selling cars here...It's just a matter of time:thumbsup:
 

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I dont really care who the americans are working for, as long as someone is using american workers to build their cars!
 

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I wonder why Honda can build a product with much better fit and finish when they hire people from the same country that GM uses. Does Honda have higher standards? I mean no offence here, and I'm not trying to get anything started, but I've always been curious.
 

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Yes and No. Honda (and most Japanese corporations for that matter) STRIVE To have the best possible product. The culture over there is very different. Over here, we come in, clock out, get paid, expect to get our weekends and vacations, etc.

Japan is different though. They're all about the "group" mentality. People take EXTREME pride in their jobs, and if they make a shoddy product, they are shamed, seriously:suspect:. They even skip vacations if need be because that's how serious they are at work. Most Japanese men work like 12-14 days, which explains part of the declining population problem - they're obsessed with work, they don't have time for families, etc. I mean, their co-workers ARE their family:cookoo:

Also, If GM was competitive, it wouldn't matter, but Honda got lucky - they just happened to be overly-ambitious and GM just happened to be ultra-complacent, and let's face it, early Honda models weren't anything special, but once they introducted the Accord, the VTEC engines, etc. they just became huge (Toyota too). And they strive to make their product better, to be the class leaders, etc. while GM is struggling right now to do what Honda was doing 5 years ago...

It's more complicated than that sure, GM has other things holding them back, like UAW workers, etc. but in the end, Honda just has better designs than GM, and GM has accepted it. Hell, they even buy engines from Honda (called the L66 V6 by GM) to use in the Saturn VUE:yup:
 

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Yeah, so what you're saying is that Honda came in, worked their asses off and made some amazing products that hit a chord with the public, while at the same time, GM was resting on it's laurels.
 

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Exactly. And while Honda pretty much invented THE fuel efficient car, GM was still trying to make big yachts. Of course, GM did TRY to make econocars, but they were crap. The Cavalier anyone??? Or the Cimarron? :p

By the time GM realized what was going on, it was WAY too late.;)
 

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ahhh ok, and in trying to make their cars more fuel efficent, they made some big mistakes (HT4100, 350 Diesel,Chevette,Citation) and these big mistakes really tarnished GM's image and thats what really hurt them in the long run! Gotcha!
 

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Ben is right on about the Japanese culture. These guys give their life to the company pretty much! No unions to fight, fiercely loyal workers, a culturally-bred sense of effeciency and pride in one's work, it's no wonder the Japanese build good cars. Just think what would happen if they would learn how to be innovators as well......
 
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