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I thought this warranted it's own thread so everyone knew we are talking a group buy here. Pete normally sell these specially processed OEM sized brake rotors for $700. If we get a minimum of six orders we can get them for $600.
Here's Pete's e-mail to me:

Bob:

You would have to get a "head count" on how many people would be interested in a 4 piece rotor package in order for me to calculate any type of " group buy" discount.

I try to price them "out of the box" at close to rock bottom; so there may not be that much of a margin with regard to a discount. The rotors are however guaranteed and "heads and shoulders" above the OEM brembo cast economy rotor as well as the off-shore Chinese gravity-cast iron rotors.

Namely the differences are:
  • Our rotors are cold forged pressed from long grain ductile iron which is a premium grade carbon steel and literally costs twice the price of short grain gravity cast iron.
  • Our directional vane is of a proprietary design and our rotors are made to order here in the United States. We made the investment in the tooling for the impeller design which provides substantial cooling properties to the center wheel bearings over the OEM designed directional vane rotor.
  • Our rotors do not receive a 2 minute tin-zinc electro-plating as a rust inhibitor as most "aftermarket rotors do". The OEM brembo rotors receive no coating whatsoever; just a factory paint protectant. Our rotors receive a 1 hour bath in copper and a 2 hour bath in bright nickel. This 3 hour plating process almost insures that you could drop this rotor in the Pacific Ocean and will experience no rust formation anywhere.
The regular MSRP price of the above package is $700 plus UPS ground shipping and insurance. Depending on the number of orders and I would guess that I would need 10 orders; I could probably offer a 15% discount which would put the rotor package at about $600 plus UPS ground shipping and insurance. And quite frankly; that is really a bargain given the quality of the product.

Additional options that I can make available at standard rates:
  • Powder coating of the center rotor hubs in a two-stage process. Client can select the color and we will powder coat it any of 2500 different colors plus clear coat it. Cost would be $195.00. As you know, allot of folks will buy those epoxy paint kits made by G2 and they do a decent job. The powder coating process is more of a permanent process and is impervious to brake fluid and brake cleaning solvents.
  • We can also supply DOT certified braided stainless steel brake lines which I would highly recommend. Cost is $150 and they provide a much firmer brake pedal feel and virtually eliminate any brake fade that is associated with the swelling of the OEM rubber brake lines under ambient temperature changes.
So to summarize; the best "bang for the dollar" would be the rotor package at $600 and the stainless steel braided brake lines at $150.

We will obviously cross drill and/or gas slot each rotor. So in summary; I would suggest the following as a package:

Our cryo treated Cadillac CTS directional vane rotors. They will be cross drilled and cryogenically treated. After cryo-treatment; each rotor will be bright nickel plated as a rust inhibitor as described above. If the client wants the rotor hubs powder-coated we will offer that as an option; but quite frankly I think most would be better served with simply purchasing a G2 epoxy kit for less than $50 and applying any color of their choice to the rotor hubs. I would really rather not fool around with the powder coating, but if someone wants it; I will make it available at $195.

I would highly recommend the DOT certified braided stainless steel brake lines at $150 as an option as this feature speaks for itself.

MSRP on the Rotor Package: $700.00 plus shipping; Group Buy Purchase price: $600 plus UPS shipping
Optional Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines: $150.00


See what you interest you might be able to stimulate and what you can put together. I would need a minimum of 6 orders in order to offer the above price of $600

best regards - Pete

Tripleought can we put you down for the first?
Bob

P.S. there is no core charge or trade of rotors.
 

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why bob, of course you can.

you know, when you're a kid impulse buys are like a piece of candy, or maybe a 5 dollar toy. funny when you get older what they become-a 900 dollar borla and some 600 dollar rotors. i think if this goes through i need to take a slight break. let myself recoup through the winter....or not.

Tripleought, blazin' a path...number 1.

(granted we can get 5 others...of not, i can wait)
 

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Anyone got $600 lying around they can loan me?
 

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thats a lot for four rotors.
okay, so sell me.
specially treated how?
cryo treated? commonly done but is good for the rotors.
Many companies will cryo treat rotors, have done so for years, adds some life to them.
slotted and drilled?
are the holes ("drilled" is just a term used) actually machined or drileld in or are they cast into the rotor.
I see a different colored "hat" on the rotor. is it one piece or is the hat bolted to the body of the rotor like a high end brembro

zinc plated? zinc bathed perhaps or simply painted?
 

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Kael said:
thats a lot for four rotors.
okay, so sell me.
specially treated how?
cryo treated? commonly done but is good for the rotors.
Many companies will cryo treat rotors, have done so for years, adds some life to them.
slotted and drilled?
are the holes ("drilled" is just a term used) actually machined or drileld in or are they cast into the rotor.
I see a different colored "hat" on the rotor. is it one piece or is the hat bolted to the body of the rotor like a high end brembro

zinc plated? zinc bathed perhaps or simply painted?
I think all your answers are in the first post as described by owner Pietro Raimondi (Pete)

Do you know what 4 OEM CTS rotors cost from discounted GMPD That's before any work is done on them. Yet you see cheap China cold gravity cast rotors for $200. Junk

GM PART # 18060686 *
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $175.92
OUR PRICE: $87.96DESCRIPTION: ROTOR
 

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RobertCTS said:
You need to start a thread, "Group buy on Teeth Whitener". See if you can clear $600:D
You know I can score the $300 professional whitening kits for free. Only problem is you have to get a mold made specifically for your mouth, it would be hard for me to convince the school that I needed 3 or 4 kits with different impressions.
 

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DDS rollin a CTS said:
You know I can score the $300 professional whitening kits for free. Only problem is you have to get a mold made specifically for your mouth, it would be hard for me to convince the school that I needed 3 or 4 kits with different impressions.
Have you seen the Kits where you drop a piece of plastic in real hot water. It softens and you mold it around your teeth as it cools it firms up.

Am I still in the Cadillac Forum:hmm: :Offtopic:
 

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DDS rollin a CTS said:
You know I can score the $300 professional whitening kits for free. Only problem is you have to get a mold made specifically for your mouth, it would be hard for me to convince the school that I needed 3 or 4 kits with different impressions.
Whitening kits hey? Question. Suggest an consumer grade, buy it at your local convenience store teeth whitening kit. And why. Please?
 

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RobertCTS said:
I think all your answers are in the first post as described by owner Pietro Raimondi (Pete)

Do you know what 4 OEM CTS rotors cost from discounted GMPD That's before any work is done on them. Yet you see cheap China cold gravity cast rotors for $200. Junk

GM PART # 18060686 *
CATEGORY: All
PACK QTY: 1CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $175.92
OUR PRICE: $87.96DESCRIPTION: ROTOR
That's $352 for four OEM rotors. How could you possible cross drill and gas slot them plus cryo treat them for $200 as sold on Ebay?? You can't unless you start with cheap a$$ gravity cast rotors from China?
 
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