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I heard somewhere that the new (2005) Sevilles were going to be rear wheel drive. Is this true?

I know the new SRX offers all-wheel drive as an option.

I've had two DeVilles (2001 & 2004) and love the front wheel drive. Sure hope they don't change to rear-wheel drive on the next re-design of the DeVille.
 

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nope next reskin of the deville will keep it as front drive , i belive it will migrate over to rear drive sometime around 2007-08 and be called the DTS

according to car connection production on seville ended a few weeks ago for retool to begin production of the reardrive sts which is based off of the cts platform (also where srx came from)
 

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I'm I the only one happy to hear this? I've been waiting for GM to finally straighted out. Only the crown vic's and mercurys were the only option for fullsized rwd v8. Now the caddy's are back yay!
 

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Cadillac is simply doing what is needed to be the best in the world.

Even if they had the best FWD car ever built (which they don't) it still wouldn't help them compete against Audi, BMW or Mercedes.

Every luxury/near luxury car company that relies exclusively on FWD is lagging in sales behind those that offer RWD vehicles in their line-up.
 

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HotRodSaint said:
Cadillac is simply doing what is needed to be the best in the world.

Even if they had the best FWD car ever built (which they don't) it still wouldn't help them compete against Audi, BMW or Mercedes.

Every luxury/near luxury car company that relies exclusively on FWD is lagging in sales behind those that offer RWD vehicles in their line-up.
Power is supposed to go to the rear wheels, I like our 85 sedan deville. But its the 83 Fleetwood Brougham R(ight)W(heel)D(rive) that gets 500 cid engine.
 

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Engines are becomming more and more powerful from the luxury manufacturers again, and there is a limit to around 300 hp with FWD transaxles. If Cadillac is going to compete, and continually build more powerful engines in the future then the switch back to RWD is logical, and necessary IMO.
 

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:confused: So is power the reason for going back to RWD? I guess I'm a little :suspect: . Does anyone know what reasons Caddy is giving for this move? I've always understood that you could pull a large object more easily than push it. And, that FWD was better in dealing with bad weather ,such as we see in S.E. WI. at this time of year :eek: Don't take me wrong, over 80% of the cars I've owned have been RWD, I'm just :confused: as to why they would make this move.
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There are advantages with both platforms....Weather is a big one with FWD. I'd much rather drive my Seville on an icy road than any of my RWD vehicles. RWD provides a much better power transfer in most other conditions ( Although most people can't really tell the difference ) particularly in W.O.T. Takeoffs. For most normal driving situations there is very little ( If any ) perceptable difference between the two platforms.
 

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well, the thing i hate is how Cadillac is leaving ALL their old names.....Fleetwood/Seville/Eldorado, and probally in the future the DeVille....

...IF the DeVille was ever changed to DTS, that would be a sad day...... I really lost a little respect in Cadillac for getting rid of all the names and going with these 3 random letter things.....

....besides that, under normal driving, I can't tell a differnce, in rain and snow, FWD is better, everything else, RWD is better.....

.... I had the kids in my avation class...who are all rice boys try to tel me that FWD is far better then RWD, ESPECALLY in off the line launches, I am not going to get into this again as I typed it up on another forum, but damn it pissed me off soo much......
 

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Night Wolf said:
.... I had the kids in my avation class...who are all rice boys try to tel me that FWD is far better then RWD, ESPECALLY in off the line launches, I am not going to get into this again as I typed it up on another forum, but damn it pissed me off soo much......
Don't you know that weight transfer to the rear upon launch is great for front wheel traction! :D
 

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Any talk of a RWD Fleetwood resurrection yet???

As long as I have to put up with Wisconsin winters, I'll always have a FWD for the snow. I don't even dare take out my Grandparent's 1981 Olds out in the snow - I fear ice and snow.
 

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Front wheel drive is awful. In snow, I would probably rather have the rear wheels lose traction and let off the gas as my front wheels still go where I want them to than have my front wheels slip and have them pull me wherever they feel like going, negating my steering. Obviously in general FWD is better for most people in snow/bad weather, but I feel a bit differently. Also, on the performance side, front wheel drive is a total joke. Not only for torque steer but also weight distribution and transfer. All in all, I am very glad Cadillac is heading back in the right direction and wish my STS was RWD. :coolgleam
 

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Front wheel drive is awful. In snow, I would probably rather have the rear wheels lose traction and let off the gas as my front wheels still go where I want them to than have my front wheels slip and have them pull me wherever they feel like going, negating my steering. Obviously in general FWD is better for most people in snow/bad weather, but I feel a bit differently. Also, on the performance side, front wheel drive is a total joke. Not only for torque steer but also weight distribution and transfer. All in all, I am very glad Cadillac is heading back in the right direction and wish my STS was RWD. :coolgleam
You make some bold claims. And that's just fine. ;) It is snowing a lot up here almost every day, and I am VERY impressed with my FWD Fleetwood. It is just as though I am driving in the summer time with this car! I WISH I had this traction in my big assed Grand Marquis, which was 400 pounds heavier, and not half the traction! When you are trying to merge into an intersection, that has some ice, some snow, everyone is a dink and not letting you in, do NOT get left behind with RWD! (in this situation, you will) When you have a near miss with a Dodge Durango because you cannot merge, you will change your opinion, FAST. You mentioned the performance side of things, well it is not really a serious performance car that has FWD anyway. IMO. If you want serious performance capabilities, you get a car with RWD. If you want a good car that PERFORMS WELL in many scenarios, get FWD. I have been driving both platforms for twenty years, and I can say that.

PS, they have eliminated torque steer from what I have experienced and read. That arguement cannot really be used anymore, and I am more than tired of it.
 

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In retrospect, you are right in your points and I agree that, with such things as merging and many other situations in bad weather, FWD will be superior. I guess I just enjoy letting the tail out around turns from time to time :p I think something about RWD just *feels* better to me, I can't really explain it. Maybe it's because i'm used to it, as the STS is my first front wheel drive car, but I agree that most performance cars will not be FWD for various aforementioned reasons. If by torque steer you are referring to, under WOT acceleration, the tendency for a front wheel drive car's wheels to veer right to left due to lack of traction, then I suppose with better/newer tires it would be eliminated, but as my STS stands now it happens on all WOT runs. The car has trouble finding traction in first gear and thus the wheels go back and forth like crazy. :coolgleam
 

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I think everybody missed a key line above - AWD optional. AWD is the best of both worlds at the expense of some mechanical complexity. My mom had an AWD AMC Eagle. Gutless 6 banger but it was one of the nicest handling cars in rain and snow I've ever driven. With 20 years of advancement in traction control and the like, an AWD Caddy will be a formidible machine. It should offer all the suburban advantages of a SUV without all the drawbacks. Just think: horsepower and traction at the same time.
 

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On ice AWD is pretty much the worst you can get because it's the wheels that aren't spinning that keep you on the road. For getting unstuck it's the best.

Pretty much the only bad thing about rear wheel drive is getting going after you stop. On ice or slippery roads the back wheels will spint without going anywhere. The car I was driving a couple years ago in the winter was terrible for this. It had enough torque that once you started taking your foot off the brakes it would already start doing that. But since I'm not using that car in the winter anymore it's not a problem. The back does try to slip around more on them when you're moving but it's usually not much of a problem.
 
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