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firstly let me start by saying, this post is not meant to oofend anyone. im just saying, to the untrained, uneducated eye, the catera looks like a luxury cavalier. besides rear wheel drive and drive train what sets catera apart from cavalier?

the reason i ask is because my friend has a 96 cavalier, its in decent shape but could use new components almost everywhere, suspension mainly, so i was wonderin if its at all possible to use catera components to make her cavalier ride more like a cadillac.... im sure she doesnt wanna take the sporty/ricey path and would be very much more appreciative of a more luxurious feel to her cavalier.

please reply and once again please dont be offended, im not callin your cars hyped cavaliers, im simply askin to be educated
 
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Let me educate you...I have both cars and not only are they completely different looking but are completely different under the body. To be honest I don't think it has one part in common so my guess would be that you wouldn't be able to use any parts from the Caddy for the Cavy. Now if you start talking about the Cimmaron, thats a whole different story...Cavillac, interesting though...
 
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thanks,
well, the cimmaron was in the 80's right so im sure an eighty somethin vehicles parts wouldnt interchange with a ninety six.


also, i hardly ever get to see a catera in person and now that i see it in pictures it looks more like a lumina or monte carlo, but smaller anyways, forget my question and thanks for the reply/education
 
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thanks,
well, the cimmaron was in the 80's right so im sure an eighty somethin vehicles parts wouldnt interchange with a ninety six.
also, i hardly ever get to see a catera in person and now that i see it in pictures it looks more like a lumina or monte carlo, but smaller anyways, forget my question and thanks for the reply/education
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Yeah, it doesnt really fit into America very well IMO

Its European designed, for the European markter, designed in 1992 for the 199(3?) model year, the Vauxhall/Opel Omega was a success here, alot of the time as a police cruiser.




I had a 1996, I liked it alot, theyre great!
 
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The old Cimarron was a Cavalier, right down to the engine.
It had some extra body work bolted on and had a few extra options but it was the same car.

Catera was built by Opel in Euorope and shipped over here. They are a unique automobile as far as GM goes, they share no parts with anything.
The CTS replaced the Catera but only shares the engine design. The new CTS 3.6 is a completely different motor than the 3.0 and the 3.2 liter.

Cavalier is called a J car, and it's on a shared platform with the Pontiac Sunfire. Many powertrain and suspension parts are interchangable on the two but nothing else.
Buick used to make a J car but quit years ago.
 
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You know, I didn't realize that GTO was build on the V car platform.
That is almost sad to me somehow.
I haven't worked for Pontiac for years, so it is no surprise that I didn't know that but I thought some techs I know would have brought it up by now.
Hmmm....
 
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You know, I didn't realize that GTO was build on the V car platform.
That is almost sad to me somehow.
I haven't worked for Pontiac for years, so it is no surprise that I didn't know that but I thought some techs I know would have brought it up by now.
Hmmm....
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Well as far as I can see, I am aware that the Commodore is related to the Omega/Catera (stylings pretty obvious) and I can also see that the Monaro (GTO) is a two door Commodore. I think this is right. I will do some research
 
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my gf called me the other day and said she was following some guy in a honda or toyota that had taken off all the emblems and put on caddy ones, i told her no hunny that has to be an old 80's Cimmaron, she said no that it didnt look old like that... puzzled i told her theres no way someone would go through all the trouble to add caddy emblems to a honda theres no point it would just be plain stupid, i then came to the conclusion it HAD to be a Catera, she came over i showed her a photo and asked is this wat you saw she said yea who would want that... i looked at her and told her I wanted one of them b/c it was a smaller caddy and rear wheel, i then herd about all the problems with them saw a Z rated ETC and couldnt pass her up.
 
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I've actually also heard that BMW (?) had something to do with it... ??? I have seen that on a TDI version in Europe it says BMW on the turbo...;)
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Hello,

The Omega/Catera were both built on the same line in the German Opel factory. The floorpan and suspension components were a development of the older Vauxhall Carlton/Senator, Holden Commodore series of cars.

The Omega/Catera were an update of this platform. Mechanically the Catera and Omega are identical. The Holden Commodore/Monaro share the same floorpan, rear suspension setup, windscreen and door handles as the Omega/Catera, but the front subframe and suspension differs. The commodore uses a rack whereas the Omega/Catera uses a steering box.

BMW components are used, on all Omega/Cateras, the front wishbones share bushes with the old E34 and E32 5 and 7 series respectively. A popular mod is to fit BMW 750iL bushes as they are the strongest you can get.

In europe we got a BMW 2.5 TD engine, mated to the Omega box. I think the rear diff is also shared with the E34 5 series.

Basically the car is in effect a cheaper BMW rival, but just as good in both driving and quality.

The holdens used muscular V8 engines taken from the Corvette (LS2 lumps). Some holdens used their own 6 cylinder unit in supercharged form.

In Brazil you also have the Chevorlet Omega, just to complicate things yet even further!!!

James.
 
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