[BugsyC]

Should I be wary of buying a car that is from MN. or WI? I'm looking at 2019 XT5's from those states.

How many miles are too many when buying a 2019 XT5? Differences and preferences between 19 and 20? What is a good price for a 19 luxury?

 

[njacobsen]

Differences and preferences between 19 and 20?

I have a 2020 XT5 Platinum and really like the changes to the interior CUE/Console area.

Have you test driven both? Do yourself a favor and do a physical comparison. You will likely appreciate the ability to disable start/stop and the joy stick for the CUE.

 

[Eldo678]

As noted above, the 2020 has been refreshed and seems to have shed most of the initial production issues. I'm very happy with my 2020. My plan is to keep it til the last model yr production which seems to be 2025, per an article I just saw. Order a brand new 1 with all the goodies and then get buried in it, lol! 😅

Blasphemy, I say!

 

[UberCaddy]

Look for a CPO in your price range with the options you want. The luxury is the base model, Premium Luxury gets you additional features, then there's the Platinum and maybe the Sport, not sure what year the Sport came to be.

Check out autotrader in your area.

 

[BugsyC]

WOW..Do you XT5 owners feel the same way?? What about getting a Minnesota or Wisconsin car,anything worse compared to cars from elsewhere?

 

[ALPAN]

WOW..Do you XT5 owners feel the same way?? What about getting a Minnesota or Wisconsin car,anything worse compared to cars from elsewhere?

My car from Wisconsin. And I see traces of winter chemicals on my car. Chrome has traces of corrosion. Му car is 2 years old.

 

[UberCaddy]

I love my XT5, I bought it in August 2022 as a CPO with 20,000 miles. Haven't had any major problems with it since. I'm up to almost 30,000 now.

I'd avoid cars from northern climes, they use salt on the roads up there!

BTW, you have 2 threads with the same subject...

 

[philly88]

Don't buy a Cadillac! Read the forum, how many problems and what a terrible customer support. Buy Toyota or Lexus!

All brands have their dogs. I guess you can buy a Toyota or Lexus if you don't care that you'll be driving some of the ugliest cars with the worst infotainment interfaces around.
And in terms of reliability of the XT5 particularly there's this.
2022 Cadillac XT5 Among Most Reliable Midsize SUVs: Study (gmauthority.com)
Sure I don't love Consumer Reports, but keep in mind they have a history of loving to bash GM. So if they say something from GM is good, the data must be pretty irrefutable.
My two XT5's have been very comfortable, reliable vehicles.
I agree with those who have posted above saying go with 2020 and above. My 2021 is much better with the tweaks that have been made than my 2018 was. No more rattling noises, better CUE software, better infotainment physical controls, start-stop OFF button.
As far as mileage, I'd consider the vehicle as a whole, not just the mileage. I've seen vehicles two years old all highway driven with a ton of mileage but the car is like new. And I've seen others with low mileage but the car looks like it's been through the ringer. I guess my advice would be to look for a CPO XT5 that has some MFG warranty left on it so you have some peace of mind. Good luck!

My car from Wisconsin. And I see traces of winter chemicals on my car. Chrome has traces of corrosion. Му car is 2 years old.

Ummmmm..... The chrome on the outside of the XT5 is chrome plated PLASTIC. That doesn't rust or corrode. Sorry.
I live in Northern Ontario, we know road salt. Trust me, I've had many cars 10 years old claimed by road salt corrosion. But guess what, the chrome plastic bits don't corrode.
Do you get rock chips causing pitting on them, sure. Maybe if it's a bad chrome job it might even peel (never seen that on any of the 8 Cadillacs I've owned over the years). But it doesn't corrode. I have a 65 Mustang with steel bumpers, now that chrome will corrode. But not what's on the outside of an XT5. Doesn't happen.

 

[ALPAN]

All brands have their dogs. I guess you can buy a Toyota or Lexus if you don't care that you'll be driving some of the ugliest cars with the worst infotainment interfaces around.

But you will be driving a safe car.

Ummmmm..... The chrome on the outside of the XT5 is chrome plated PLASTIC. That doesn't rust or corrode. Sorry.

When I receive the car from repair, I will show the photo.

 

[njacobsen]

Don't buy a Cadillac! Read the forum, how many problems and what a terrible customer support. Buy Toyota or Lexus!

I believe Cadillac fixed your car under warranty as reported in another thread. How did that work for you?

 

[njacobsen]

WOW..Do you XT5 owners feel the same way?? What about getting a Minnesota or Wisconsin car,anything worse compared to cars from elsewhere?

I live in Wisconsin and my cars do not show the negative effects of the treatments on the streets. I take care of them washing frequently.

Buying used, you must thoroughly inspect with a car from any area.

 

[dgoodrie]

As an original owner of the 2017 XT5 Premium Luxury, the XT5 has been a very good vechile. I had one piece of electronics replaced after two weeks of ownership. I only have 36k miles on it and the MN winters don't show any negative effects on it. If and when my order for the Lyriq comes in the next few months then I plan on selling the XT5 or perhaps trading it in depending on the trade-in price..

 

[Long]

BTW, you have 2 threads with the same subject...

Threads merged.

 

[Cougar281]

Ummmmm..... The chrome on the outside of the XT5 is chrome plated PLASTIC. That doesn't rust or corrode. Sorry.

The chrome plastic does 'something'. The chrome trim around the fog lights on the CTS I sold to buy my CT6 had a blue/green 'corrosion', similar to copper oxidization, that I could never get off.

But you will be driving a safe car.

Ha!! NOT!! I've seen enough Hondas, Toyotas, Kias, etc in crashes up close and personal to know that I would NEVER buy one or put my daughter in one. Nothing made by humans is perfect, and can be torn apart with enough force, but the Asian imports shred at crazy low impact forces.



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[philly88]

But you will be driving a safe car

True story, I think I posted it somewhere on this forum way back. A Lexus ran straight into my 2018 XT5 when it was parked on the road. I mean straight on. The Lexus was doing about 35mph when it hit it. Nobody was inside my XT5. The Lexus front end was demolished. I don't know if it was a write off, but must have been. My XT5's tailgate and everything on it was smoked, exhaust ripped off, bumper gone, but other than that it looked a heck of a lot better than the Lexus did. The floor on the rear hatch area wasn't even bent or affected in any way. You'd think that would have buckled compared to what you saw on the Lexus.

Sorry, adding this after I originally posted, it was a Lexus RX 350 to be exact. So same size vehicle as XT5.

 

[Cougar281]

True story, I think I posted it somewhere on this forum way back. A Lexus ran straight into my 2018 XT5 when it was parked on the road. I mean straight on. The Lexus was doing about 35mph when it hit it. Nobody was inside my XT5. The Lexus front end was demolished. I don't know if it was a write off, but must have been. My XT5's tailgate and everything on it was smoked, exhaust ripped off, bumper gone, but other than that it looked a heck of a lot better than the Lexus did. The floor on the rear hatch area wasn't even bent or affected in any way. You'd think that would have buckled compared to what you saw on the Lexus.

That sounds similar to the crash my wife was in back in 2010 or so. She was in her 2001 Mustang making a left into a gas station and all lanes had given her an opening. It was wet, so she lost traction and as she started the turn and lost traction, a woman driving a 2007 or so corolla popped out from a line of stopped cars into the left turn lane to try and beat the light at the intersection(which was the first lane my wife had to cross, not like videos you see where someone tries to cross two or three lanes and gets smacked in the second or third lane) and hit her at 45* right in the passenger side corner. This was at most, a 25mph impact. In situ, you'd think the Toyota had hit a brick wall, the brick wall had vanished, and the mustang came up to it with a 'hey, wassup?'. Externally, there was almost zero visible damage to the mustang. Of course there was damage underneath, but the hood and both fenders were undamaged in the crash. Main damage was the bumper, core support, passenger side forward frame rail and maybe drivers side forward frame rail. A good body shop with a frame rack and the right parts could have repaired it quite easily if not for the cost to value ratio. And this was one of the more minor crashes. Most of the rest were during my time as a volunteer firefighter.

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[mzflorida]

I'm not disagreeing with the fact that vehicles produced by different manufacturers perform differently in crashes. However, except for bumpers (if i recall correctly), the potential for a vehicle to be repaired after a crash is not part of the structural design characteristics. Preventing structural intrusion into the occupant space is the goal. That end is achieved through different architectures. I also have 25 years in public service (law enforcement) and agree that some vehicles seem to perform better than others considering the potential to be repaired. Completely unscientific observation, but I cannot recall any performance differentiation among the brands (later years at least) regarding intrusion into the passenger compartment. I do recall a few crashes with Tesla and they seemed to be pretty remarkable. Not sure why.

Interesting data set. But number of vehicles (by make model) in service, driver behavior & experience, vehicle maintenance and condition, roads, weather, speed, etc., are also contributors.

 

[philly88]

So Toyota's two best sellers are 4th and 8th on the list. So where does the perception / ongoing belief Toyotas being so safe come from? Seems to me from that data they are pretty bad in terms of safety.
And I agree @mzflorida about the fact that the cars ability to absorb damage and not have intrusion into the cabin is more important than repairability. In the end we just want to make sure people stay alive and uninjured. But in my instance I had zero intrusion into my vehicle and a lot less damage, so win/win IMO.

 

[Cougar281]

Anyway, back to the original topic, there's nothing wrong with looking at northern cars, I just wouldn't buy one sight unseen. You'd want to have it carefully looked over by an independent third party. The CT6 I have now and the CTS before it were both Michigan cars. The CTS had a little bit of surface rust underneath, but nothing major, and the CT6 seems to be really clean. Both were CPO's.

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[njacobsen]

Anyway, back to the original topic, there's nothing wrong with looking at northern cars, I just wouldn't buy one sight unseen.

I would not buy any car sight unseen, not even a new one.