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Buyer advice needed: 2016 vs 2017 vs 2018

13K views 39 replies 18 participants last post by  jaymsu  
#1 ·
Hello, I'm in a market to purchase used (or CPO) low mile ATS-V, and what I've seen so far tells me there is roughly $6,000 difference between 2016 and 2017, or 2017 and 2018 (2016: 40k, 2017: 46k, 2018: 52k) if the cars have similar miles and similar options.

Biggest difference I could find between MY16, 17 and 18 were CUE system version upgrades, 'Collection', 'Teen driver', and following distance indicator.

So on paper, I kinda understand what the differences are, but are they worth 6k more to go with 17 instead of 16? (or 18 instead of 17?)
- obviously, newer MY cars will have longer warranty left, but other than that, would it be worth that extra 6,000?

What would you buy and why?

Thank you in advance for your help.
 
#2 ·
Besides the CUE version upgrade in 2018, I think the only other significant change would be the ability to individually set the exhaust, suspension, and steering modes (tour, sport, track) independent of the mode the car is in. They added that feature to 17's and up.

Edit - I have a 17 now that im happy with, if I were to do it over I would try to look into 18's because I think CUE 3.0 is much nicer, but i dont think I'd be willing to pay an extra 6k for it.
 
#3 ·
Besides the CUE version upgrade in 2018, I think the only other significant change would be the ability to individually set the exhaust, suspension, and steering modes (tour, sport, track) independent of the mode the car is in. They added that feature to 17's and up.
That's news to me. How does one individually set the exhaust, suspension, and steering independent of the tour/sport/track modes?
 
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#6 ·
One of the features I was looking for was support for Android Auto. I believe the '16s picked it up mid-year, the '17s had it plus there was a bump in cue performance and the '18s had it plus cue was upgraded to 3.0. I agree with an earlier post that you should figure out must-have features to help with the search. These cars are fairly rare, so you may get lucky and have the pick of the litter, otherwise you'll have to prioritize. I have a '17 coupe with the manual transmission. Truly an excellent car! As for AA, it works well most of the time but can have glitches. It also depends on the app. The SiriusXM app is decent, but is flakier than most. Waze is one of the better apps.
 
#7 ·
Thank you everyone for the reply and advice.

My must-haves are Sedan and Auto. Currently driving Camaro SS 6spd as daily. I still love the car but my wife can't drive manual and we sometimes need to switch cars.

Options I'd like to have:
- White with Carbon Fiber package
- 20k miles or less
- Recaro Seats
- PDR
- Split folding rear seat
- Two tone interior would be nice. :D

So I'll focus more on the options I want, instead of model year. Back to searching.......
 
#8 ·
Options I'd like to have:

- PDR
- Split folding rear seat


So I'll focus more on the options I want, instead of model year. Back to searching.......
Just a quick note that may help you identify the car your want or do not want:
The folding rear seat can only be had with the luxury package, which in turn can not be combined with the track package. So if the car has the track package, the rear seats will not fold.
The PDR comes with the track package, but can also be purchased separately without the track package.
 
#10 ·
In my humble opinion if you find a low mileage 2016 you will have gotten the best for your money. Aside for some minor things that allow you to play around with the exhaust modes and maybe some upgrades to cue, nothing that makes it better just different, all three years are pretty much identical.

Unless you just have to have a newer year model car you're throwing money away because you can pick up a low mileage 2016 probably in the upper 30s to low 40s. A CPO will probably be in the low-to-mid 40s.
 
#12 ·
I found a car that has almost every option that I wanted - white, CF, Auto, Recaro, low mile, folding rear seat, PDR, even down to 2 tone seats. And it's at a dealership that's very close to me and priced right too.

BUT it is 2 door..... :( I really wanted to be a responsible dad, and get a 4 door car for family this time......
Oh well, I'm gonna stop by tomorrow to check out the 'space' of the car and see if I want to live with 2 doors again.
 
#18 ·
I got really lucky. I bought a 16 and it does have a better warranty. 4 year/ 50,000 bumper to bumper and 6 year/ 70,000 powertrain. I was lucky because I found a 2016 that wasn't sold until May of 2017. So when I bought it in June of 2018, it still had 3 years of bumper to bumper and 5 years of powertrain warranty left.
 
#22 ·
Thanks everyone for great advice and replies.
I went to check out '18 coupe near by, and realized it would be even more difficult to get in and out of than Camaro, so that one's out of the picture, and many of the low mileage 18s in the market don't have manufacturer warranty (V-lap cars)
Decided to pick up '16 with 10k miles on. (originally first purchased in June 2017)
Not white with CF, but everything else I wanted is there so I'm going out to pick it up tomorrow.

Look forward to learning many things about this car from this forum, and enjoy it on street and track. (I do HPDEs and race in Champ car series - I will be instructing at Camaro Fest in this ATS-V. I'm sure they will give me hard time for driving a 'wrong car', but I'd say it's a Camaro's 'nerd twin in Tux' :D )
 
#25 ·
Decided to pick up '16 with 10k miles on. (originally first purchased in June 2017)
Not white with CF, but everything else I wanted is there so I'm going out to pick it up tomorrow.
Enjoy, I also didn't get the exact color I wanted cuz it was a new-for-2018-color (Satin Steel) and the books had already closed on new orders, so had to settle for a barely-driven (2k miles!) Phantom Grey that had most of the other options I wanted (except for the Saffron seat inserts which have grown on me, and dark finish wheels which look plasti-dipped when dirty, but at least they're "different" I suppose).
 
#33 ·
After reading all the comments here, I decided to go with 16 and save money too.



Another thing to consider when choosing between a '16, '17 and '18 is the depreciation rate. Usually, newer model years will have a higher depreciation rate.
This is one of the main reason why I went with 16. Just picked up 16 with 10k miles for $39k. If I wanted similar mile/option 18, there was one for $53k.
I usually keep my car for 4-5 years and drive about 20k miles/yr.
When I'm selling the car in 4 years, I may get 4-5k more for 18 MY, over 16 MY, while I pay 14k more when buying.

Just brought it home. I'm happy with my choice.
Looking forward to track season!!!
 

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#29 ·
Another thing to consider when choosing between a '16, '17 and '18 is the depreciation rate. Usually, newer model years will have a higher depreciation rate. I have also noticed that CPO cars are sometimes no more expensive than non CPO cars.

My suggestion would be a low mileage '16 CPO. Given the very good 3 year lease deals available when the '16 models were new, there should be a decent selection of off lease vehicles available soon.

I just realized that my post was late since the OP already purchased a car, but my advice is still valid for anyone else who is still looking to buy.
 
#30 ·
My suggestion would be a low mileage '16 CPO. Given the very good 3 year lease deals available when the '16 models were new, there should be a decent selection of off lease vehicles available soon.

I just realized that my post was late since the OP already purchased a car, but my advice is still valid for anyone else who is still looking to buy.
This is good information for me as I'll be shopping around for a CPO in September/October. I'd like a '17, but if I find a '16 that's a great price I don't care about the year as long as it's the color combination with the accessories that I'm looking for.
 
#31 ·
One thing going for the 2018-19's is the newer CUE system...given all the complaints and lag with the earlier versions, I wanted the latest to avoid the headache. That said, the one in my '18 still has bugs (occasionally my USB drive and phones aren't detected until the car is restarted), but overall it's pretty snappy and easy to use, so for me it was worth the premium.
 
#32 ·
I understand the newer CUE systems have a few more configurable items (like the exhaust system separate from driving style) .. but I have to say... coming from a 2013 ATS, I have found no fault in the performance of my 2016 CUE system. Just lacking a couple new features, but its performance is great and has been glitch free. I have Android and Apple Play... but not sure what else has been added... but am more than happy with the interface and performance I'm experiencing from my 2016.
 
#37 ·
Feel like this has been covered, minor things for a big cost.

-paying 15k for slightly better cue seems silly.

-Not sure what this cruise disable is, have no issues using my cruise control on my 16, works great.

-you do get seperate exhaust valve control in cue on the newer ones, but not really a big deal, put the car in sport and the exhaust valves open the same way, or if you want them open all the time just pull the relay and be done with it.

-engine tuning is the same, newer car isnt making any more power or any faster

So yea, basically if you want to spend 10-15k extra for a "better cue" and being able to control your exhaust valves a different way than just touring/sport/track modes I guess go for it lol
 
#39 ·
Jaymsu, The CUE you can get is based on the VIN of the car. A '16 can only get the latest '16 version. The '17 version is different, and then the '18 and '19 are even more different: different internal hardware, and different look and functionality. Unfortunately, one can't put the newest version in an older car, even if you were willing to pay for it. The map updates sometimes contain some operating system updates, however.
 
#40 ·
oh I see. Thank you for the clarification. So far, I don't have big complaints about my CUE (other than the 'button/knob-less' design which makes it harder to control while driving - but that design is same on all the ATS / ATS-V regardless of years, so....). My car was built in May of 16 so it does have Android Auto, which I used all the time on Camaro. Not the best maybe, but still very useful.

I like the car so far. Soooooo looking forward to getting this on track to see what it can do.