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OK, so I'm on my way home today and there is an intersection with a light. It splits to 2 lanes right before and ends right after the light, maybe 30 yards or so after the right lane ends. Basically it's one of those intersections that you sneak up in the right lane to blow by all the traffic that's backed up in the left lane.

So I'm in my 2003 DHS with light mods, exhaust, volant intake(which is crap) and a full tank with the air conditioning on. And there is this dip shit in a bullit mustang, a younger guy with what looked like his 5 or 6 year old girl. He looks over and I already know that he's not gonna let me by easily. The light turns green, I punch it anyway, the front tires howl and then I let off and merge in behind him, so this A**HOLE slows down keeping his Crapstang in second, so now I'm pissed, I flogg the Cady at about 15 mph which is a weak point in it, and surprize I'm already next to him and at 85 or so I'm 3/4 of a car length ahead of him, but oncoming traffic is coming up real quick. So not wanting to get any of his piece of shit on my Cady I brake and merge back in behind him. I really wish there wouldn't have been any traffic because 85 is right where my Cady begins to get fun, 2nd gear pulls up to 6500 rpm and 100 mph and the exhaust note is sweet in the high RPM band.

Anyway, I'm calling this a kill, and before any mustang owners start freaking out, no it wasn't from a stop we were already moving, and no it didn't look like the stang was modified at all, but yes he was going and giving that p.o.s. all it had and it wasn't enough. To be honest I was surprized. I hate mustangs, actually scratch that, I hate almost every mustang owner I've ever met, they make EVO and STI guys look like gentlemen.

That being said, the bullit nameplate is an insult to all amunition I think a better name would have been the bee-bee jackass, I mean mustang. Boy I hope I see him again on the freeway some day. I've got a W program and will do 150+ bet that bee-bee can't. Even if he can he'd be lokking at my rear bumper backup sensors, if he was that close.

Anyway, thanks for listening to me vent, it just happened, that guy was a tool! All I wanted was to get home whether it was following him or getting in front of him, he started all this, but now he knows not to push his luck because that thing was slow, period.
 

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I'm not going to come out and call this post as insane, but a (2001) Bullitt Mustang will run high 13's off the showroom floor. That DHS, though quick, is almost 2 seconds slower than that Ford...

Perhaps he just had a badged 6 cylinder??
 

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Yeah, I was gonna say, those things are like 300hp stock, yours is maybe 290 after the mods and the Mustang is a lot lighter. I'm thinking it was a rebadged V-6 'stang too. Oh and just an FYI, the name "Bullitt" is a reference to the 1968 movie in which a '68 Mustang GT was used in one of the best car chase scenes ever.
 

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What does an '01 Bullit Mustang have? 275 bhp?

Fast but not the fastest Mustangs around. But yeah. It will take any DeVille any day. :) Maybe the Mustang driver didn't want to push it 'cause he had his kid in there....

BTW, I don't hate Mustangs. But the previous generation were one of the worst Mustangs around. The interior was designed badly. Very uncomfortable and not much room inside. The ergonomics were horrible. I can't say the GM F-bodies of that era were great either. But at least the Camaros/Firebirds had good weight distribution had handled so much better than those Mustangs.

The new generation 'Stangs are so much better overall. Faster in base trim too.
 

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Gentlemen,
I knew this would start something. First to the gentleman who stated the stang would run 13's. I don't doubt that, really I don't. We did not race from a stop, I'm sure if you get the RPMs up and know how to drive, it'll rip off the line, we were already moving. So what I'm saying is it was less than impressive from 20 or so on, actually down right unimpressive. First he was a dick, I'm sure I bagged on the gas before he did and that is what got me next to him, guessing we were doing about 30 or so by then. From there though, he had nothing. I fully expected him to easily walk away from me, BUT he didn't and by the time we hit 85 or so I was 3/4 of a car length ahead and still pulling, personally I was surprized. Like I said I wish there wasn't any traffic because I was pulling away, not blowing his doors off, but slowly but surely pulling away from him. I have no doubt that from a stop, or even a 5-10 mph role he walks away. But that's not what happened.

Second, I'm a car guy. It wasn't a 6 with a badge. Had the hood scoop, duel exhaust, badgeing, was a stick, had the right wheels (black 17 inch Tourque thrust looking rims) it was a Bullit. I also have had a stang, 93 red cobra with a ton of bolt ons. This guys I'm sure was stock. And those are unimpressive years for the mustang. If I'd have said I pulled on a stock blown cobra I would understand your skeptizism. Personally I don't think that the non cobras were ever impressive stock.

3rd I know where the nameplate comes from, seen the movie hundreds of times. Great old school car chase, probably the only time I ever rooted for a dodge. By the way they had to hop up that paticular stang allot just so it could keep up with the stock 440 mopar, intresting bit of trivia but true. Not that I'm saying anything a car guy wouldn't know but 440 vs 289 a total mismatch.

Like I said, the guy was a dick, I was just trying to get home, I usually don't do this type of stuff in the Cady. Usually if I'm looking for trouble I take the C5 (Varram, magnaflow, tune) or C6 (Varraram) out.

I was shocked, just like you guys, but found it interesting enough to post. Go find a stock Bee-bee mustang, try to get him to go from a 25-30 roll and you'll become a believer. I usually don't do this type of crap in my Cady, it just sort of happened today. Still I was surprized and honestly proud of how the Cady did.
 

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After driving my dads 2004 Mustang GT Vert I can honestly say that the guy wasn't really racing. at 20 mph that would have put him in 2nd gear and if the Bullit has even more power then a GT then he wasn't really pushing it. The DHS is the slowest of the Deville's and if your a former Cobra owner you should know what mustangs are capable of doing. Your Cobra in stock trim would have eaten your DHS up.
 

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Oh ya mine would have, no doubt. But I'm telling you this guys Bullit had nothing. Maybe he couldn't drive, I don't know. But I'm sure he was going. You should have seen the look on his face as I crept by, or as he didn't walk away. It was funny. I honestly think a DTS or an STS in the same situation a 30 mph or so side by side both cars at WOT would have passed him due to the stronger gears than in my DHS.

Seriously, I usually don't "race" the Cady, but damn now I have to go find another similiar mustang and find out what it'll do under a similiar circumstance. But having owned the last good 5.0, I really think that that generation (last generation) of mustang is weak, except for the Terminator Cobras. My 93 Cobra with minor bolt ons smoked those mustangs all day everyday, and after I was finished modin it, no contest not even close. And I agree with you Blackout the DHS has got to be the slowest version of that paticular body style, although the altered program does seem to squeak out a little more power and it's in gear longer and most importantly it doesn't hit fuel cutoff at 110-112 anymore.
 

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Hey Bert I have seen that guy a lot. After dropping off the youngest at school and driving up 124th I would see him about once a week. I only had to take her to school early twice a week, so almost every time I would see him. That car is fast. He turns off 124th onto Capitol and goes past the dealership. I would guess every morning about 7:15am. .
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Next time in I will turn up some more power:burn: :flame:
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That being said, the bullit nameplate is an insult to all amunition I think a better name would have been the bee-bee jackass, I mean mustang.
3rd I know where the nameplate comes from, seen the movie hundreds of times. Great old school car chase, probably the only time I ever rooted for a dodge. By the way they had to hop up that paticular stang allot just so it could keep up with the stock 440 mopar, intresting bit of trivia but true. Not that I'm saying anything a car guy wouldn't know but 440 vs 289 a total mismatch.
If you're going to "off" on a name, make sure you know what it means. I'm guessing you had the word "bullet" in mind...


Lesson for the kiddies. Don't post whilst excited.
 

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A 2001 Bullit is a whooping 265 HP 5 more than a standard GT at 5000 RPM and 305 Ft/lbs of troque at 4000 RPM...whoop de do.
It has a twin bore thorttle body aluminum intake and better flowing mufflers. That is where it got the extra 5 HP.
It is the suspension where that car shines, lowered, better shocks/struts and brakes.
You are good driver to see a high 13 in that car. Your average driver is seeing the same 1/4 mile times as a GT 14.40 to 14.00 at about 99 to 100mph.
A 1993 LT1 Z28 was 275 HP.
The Mach 1 is the 300 HP car. It has the DOHC Cobra motor N/A and solid rear axle those cars will actually put 280-290 HP to the ground and run right on par with a LS1 F-Body, and C5 Corvettes.

Way to go Ford. You finally got 300 HP in the Mustang GT to still run slower than a Bone stock LS1 F-body in the 1/4 mile and that is the 5 speed Mustang VS the A4 F-body.
Just some info from your resident Ford disliker.
Hey if you are going to drive a WS6 and talk as much shit as I do, you have to know what is out there.
 

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So I'm a lousy speller, you must have been bored. I know what it means, just can't spell.
No, it's not lousy spelling. See what I quoted above? You talk about the Bullitt Mustang being an insult to ammunition. Then you say it's named after the movie. Which is it?

It's not spelling, it's reading comprehension. If you're going to make fun of the name of a car, learn what it means first. You're making yourself look foolish...
 

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No, it's not lousy spelling. See what I quoted above? You talk about the Bullitt Mustang being an insult to ammunition. Then you say it's named after the movie. Which is it?

It's not spelling, it's reading comprehension. If you're going to make fun of the name of a car, learn what it means first. You're making yourself look foolish...

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Seriously, you must be really bored. But I'll explain. First, it started off as a little mustang bashing, thought that would be a big hit on a GM forum. I was surprized how that situation unfolded and thought the mustang was pretty weak considering that I was actually pulling on him in my DHS, I have no doubt, in my mind, that one of you guys in a DTS or STS with your stronger gearing would have easily past him by. A CTS-V shouldn't even bother wasting the gas. That was my whole point, that's why I thought that mustang was weak. That was one of fords bad boys in that year and it was getting out run by one of the slowest N* Cady's of that vintage. Somebody else began a post discussing the movie. I just responded, in a later post, to that.

So why don't you explain to me what the nameplate on the car means, seriously I'm curious what you have to say.

As for your statement that I'm making myself look foolish, how'd you get that? Everything that I've stated are facts. With the exception that the nameplate would have been more accurately named after a pellet gun than lethal ammunition, that was my attempt at humor, and of course, my opinion.

I think you're the foolish one because you obviously just read the last couple posts and had to pick some sh**. So read the entire thread before you judge one post. Then maybe I'd have a little more respect for your opinion, actually no I wouldn't. I don't give a sh** about you or your opinions, they mean nothing to me, you mean nothing to me, they're not even on the topic that was initially started.

So bring it, I'm sure I must have mispelled something here that you can point that out again, and once again it will have nothing to do with the topic.

Now understand that I'm sure you don't really give a crap about me or my opinions either and that is fine, but I never attacked you but you are attacking me for no real reason and its not even on the topic of this thread. Which is my first I am a newer member, I will take some of your advice and not post a thread while excited. That I think was good advice, and I will keep that in mind in the future, along with the next time I post a new thread like this, I'll make sure I have it on film.
 

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Seriously, you must be really bored. But I'll explain. First, it started off as a little mustang bashing, thought that would be a big hit on a GM forum. I was surprized how that situation unfolded and thought the mustang was pretty weak considering that I was actually pulling on him in my DHS, I have no doubt, in my mind, that one of you guys in a DTS or STS with your stronger gearing would have easily past him by. A CTS-V shouldn't even bother wasting the gas. That was my whole point, that's why I thought that mustang was weak. That was one of fords bad boys in that year and it was getting out run by one of the slowest N* Cady's of that vintage. Somebody else began a post discussing the movie. I just responded, in a later post, to that.
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So why don't you explain to me what the nameplate on the car means, seriously I'm curious what you have to say.
Gee I dunno......I guess you never saw a certain Steve McQueen movie called Bullitt

As for your statement that I'm making myself look foolish, how'd you get that? Everything that I've stated are facts.
Dude......your foolish for even thinking for a split second that what you are saying is factual. I ran my buddies bone stock 1999 Mustang GT to a 14.3. So your saying that with more hp and tq that the Bullitt got slower? guys have gotten high 13's bone stock in those things. You = very misinformed because you beat a guy who couldn't drive worth a crap

With the exception that the nameplate would have been more accurately named after a pellet gun than lethal ammunition, that was my attempt at humor, and of course, my opinion.
The car has zero to do with any type of ammo ever made. Your attempt at humor was just that.....a attempt

I think you're the foolish one because you obviously just read the last couple posts and had to pick some sh**.
I think your foolish for truly thinking that a DHS, DTS, or STS actually has a chance against a Bullitt. The STS would have the best chance but stock for stock a Bullitt will beat a STS by .5 seconds in the 1/4

So bring it, I'm sure I must have mispelled something here that you can point that out again, and once again it will have nothing to do with the topic.
The thing he's getting at is your making yourself look like some sorta 16 year old kid who took daddies Caddy out one night and think your all badass because you beat a guy who couldn't drive to save his life and your bragging about it. You said you wanted to bash on the Mustang and then you said STS guys shouldn't bother wasting their gas on them.......I think the guy in the Mustang may have not wanted to waste his gas on a DHS of all vehicles.

Now understand that I'm sure you don't really give a crap about me or my opinions either and that is fine, but I never attacked you but you are attacking me for no real reason and its not even on the topic of this thread. Which is my first I am a newer member, I will take some of your advice and not post a thread while excited. That I think was good advice, and I will keep that in mind in the future, along with the next time I post a new thread like this, I'll make sure I have it on film.
List of things to do next time you start a thread

1. Don't be so excited
2. If your going to bash a car at least know what the name of the car means
 

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Both the GT and Bullit are slooooowwwww.
5 HP and 3 Ft lbs of torque, the difference between a GT and a Bullitt most likely won't even show up on the dyno and won't show up at the track.
The car has better suspension that is why it *can* be faster it actually uses the power or lack there of that Ford gave it becuase it can get it to the ground.
It is like the difference between a LS1 WS6/SS and Z28/Trans AM. The WS6 is rated at 320 HP and 345 ft/lbs of torque, The Trans Am is rated at 305 HP and 335 Ft/lbs of torque. On the Dyno they put down the same numbers and they run identical 1/4 mile times.
13 second Bone stock Bullitts and GTs are like stock 12 second LS1 F-bodies, they are out there, but are few and far between and certainly not the norm.
I don't care if the guy can't spell, read or type. I just won't read it, this is the internet. Not English 101.
What I do care about on car sites is that lack of car knowledge and ACTUAL track time people have before spouting off.
 

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I never said we draged raced from a stop. If you had read the entire post you would already know that but apparantly you havent either. It was basically from 30 on up. From there it was weak, and ya maybe he couldn't drive, either way I was still ahead of hi at 85 or so, yet another thing you would have known if you actually read the entire post.

Then I said the CTS-V shouldn't waste the gas not the STS, although I did say that an STS or DTS would walk by it even easier than my DHS did.

The nameplate means, 5 more horsepower and 3 more foot pounds of torque. As LS1Mike already stated earlier from an improvement in exhaust, also earlier in the thread.

Again if you would have actually read the entire thread you'd already realize that all of this stuff has been covered, the movie, the cars nameplate, the horsepower difference, and the fact that I wasn't talking about 1/4 mile times.

How am I making myself look like a 16 year old that borrowed dadys Cady. My dad's been dead for 15 years, do the math this could have never been dads Cady. If anybody looks stupid here it is you, because you are misquoting every and anything that I have said to strengthen your arguements.

Go on read the ENTIRE THREAD, and your response make no sense, period. For the record, something else I've posted earlier in this thread you would have known if you actually read the whole thing, I don't look for races in the Cady, it just happened and I thought it was interesting.

And you didn't find the ammunition joke funny, oh well opinions vary.
 

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How about we look at it in another way.
How many Horses would Highline Cady need to do this?
Some one must have a program that runs the numbers.
This was not from a stop.
You should be able to find all the information with easy.
The turd ford weight and HP is on many sites.
I will look up the GVW of the DHS and then we can run some #'s to see how much HP Highline Cady would have to have.
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Just think if he had 310hp from a 275hp Y engine.
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Oh yeah did I tell you he has a custom program in his PCM:worship:
 
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