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Took the V in to have some winter tires put on at Big O in SLC. Well they broke the wheel lock and then dinged up the rim with an air chisel trying to get the remainder off. They still can’t get the damn thing off. The locks were installed by GM or the dealer and haven’t been touched. I told Big O that someone needs to buy me a new rim. They blamed the dealer and called them for restitution. The dealer said that they were not a GM product and it was not their problem. However I have the original GM paperwork saying otherwise. So I left the car at Big O and told them to work it out with the dealership as it definitely was not my problem and that I would not accept the car as is. All this after I just picked up the V from the body shop after paying $500 out of pocket to repair hit and run damage from some SOB. Got to love it.
 

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Took the V in to have some winter tires put on at Big O in SLC. Well they broke the wheel lock and then dinged up the rim with an air chisel trying to get the remainder off. They still can’t get the damn thing off. The locks were installed by GM or the dealer and haven’t been touched. I told Big O that someone needs to buy me a new rim. They blamed the dealer and called them for restitution. The dealer said that they were not a GM product and it was not their problem. However I have the original GM paperwork saying otherwise. So I left the car at Big O and told them to work it out with the dealership as it definitely was not my problem and that I would not accept the car as is. All this after I just picked up the V from the body shop after paying $500 out of pocket to repair hit and run damage from some SOB. Got to love it.

experienced the exact same thing with one of my GM wheel locks... the shop (Les Schwab) ended up taking care of the problem... messed up one of my wheels... wants to refinish it... so I have to get an extra wheel to put there while the bad one comes off and gets refinished. what a hassle... they should just buy me a new rim.
 

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be careful on that refinish. My daugther knocked over one of my AMG rims a few years back onto its face. Scratched like hell. took it in, dealer said no prob, we can refinish. Long story short, six months, four tries, three paint colors and tons of overspray on rubber later, they bowed their head in shame and agreed to buy me a new one.
 

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Well the dealer finally said to bring the car in and they would take a look at it, but they can't get to it untill Monday. I don't know what they can do, the damn thing is sheared off with only about 1-2mm above the wheel flange. I don't see how they can get if off without destroying the wheel. Since its a lease and I'm trying to get out of it anyway; I thought that I'd just leave them my keys and tell them that they can have the car back (save them the cost of reposetion). What the hell, my credit scores are in the 800's, so they knock me down 200 points, I'd still be in the good range.
 

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The repo will cost you big, in addition to the credit hit. They take the car, they auction it off, the balance between what you owe and what they got is sent to you.

On the side note, what's gonna replace the V???....'06 STI??? That's my thoughts, should I decide to lemon my car.

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06 STI, tell me your kidding!



ace996 said:
The repo will cost you big, in addition to the credit hit. They take the car, they auction it off, the balance between what you owe and what they got is sent to you.

On the side note, what's gonna replace the V???....'06 STI??? That's my thoughts, should I decide to lemon my car.

Ve good,
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Not really, RGD. Not to drift too far off topic but...
My V has caused enough problems for me to be able to consider the lemon law in NY...23 days in service in 5months. I need to bring her in again for the water pump whine, so that'll be another 2 days. The car, although absolutely beautiful...nothing compares in the sedan world, has left a severe bad taste in my mouth. For the money I'm smart-buying the V, I can own the STI. Now I understand that we can't compare the looks, the unbelieveable engine, or the class...but the STI has several proven equations for the track,snow, and AUTOX. No matter how many mods or money I throw at the V, it'll never be competitive in its classing. I came from an MR2Spyder that I won CSP for 2 years, and to tell the truth...it sucks not being competitive. And thus far, the V hasn't been able to handle the autox...even on stock tires. I've replaced the diff, right halfshaft, left-rear knuckle, and had the side-skirts re-welded...they were separating from the body due to flex.

I won't even bring-up the endless options we have regarding suspension tuning, as the lack of aftermarket support for the V's suspension is heartbreaking.

They are different cars, and for my job as a private banker the V is about as perfect a car as there is. After retrieving my car from the dealer this week, they've fixed the chronic clunking/banging/creaking and I've fallen in love with it all over again. We'll see where this road takes us, but my wife wants to keep the V and I really do to, but GM and the service organization that supports this vehicle has done a really good job of making me forever be a non-GM owner for life. I still have 12K miles to reach the 30 day lemon law, so if the 06 rear-end really does eleviate the diff-failure blues...I might just keep this car forever.
We'll see...
 

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My V has caused enough problems for me to be able to consider the lemon law in NY...23 days in service in 5months.
I’ve been considering the lemon law myself. It’s still a pain in the ass, 30 business days down in a year or 4 attempts at repair on same item. I work 90 miles away at a remote site. I leave at 0500 and get home at 7:00 PM four days a week. That means my Fridays are spent (lately) getting the V fixed at the dealer. I’ve had two new Tahoe’s, a new Sti and a new Murano in the past couple of years and I never had any of them in the shop for anything. My level of dissatisfaction with the V is increasing exponentially every time I have a new problem with it. I don’t know how you guys with all of the big problems can stand it.
 

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Not sure where you are STI, but in NY 30 days includes weekends...not business days. As of now, I'm keeping the V but should I break the 30 days, I'll have a very difficult decision to make.

My level of dissatisfaction is also increasing every time I have an issue, no car should have as many issues as we're experiencing. I was all set on getting an '05 STi in May, but my wife wouldn't accept its boy-racer looks. She wanted the V and I jumped on it due to the praising mag-writeups. I recently noticed that the new STI Spec C typeRA just lapped the Nurburgring under 8mins!!!!! It wouldn't be too difficult to turn the US spec '06 into a realiable track beast. I have 12K miles to accumulate 7 more service days before the decision needs to be made. I'd like to bring the V to a road course to see how I feel after some real leg-stretching...who knows, perhaps I'll be smitten all over again and NEVER give it up...I'm hoping that's the case.

I was so excited when I first got the V, on cloud 9 and loving it....it has just been a constant kick in the groin since....

Good luck,
ace996
 

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was all set on getting an '05 STi in May, but my wife wouldn't accept its boy-racer looks.
I know the problem, I traded my 04 STi for the V for the same reason. I need to save some cash and I like the AWD for Utah winter, so I could go with an 02 Audi TT 225. I could pass the car on to my daughter in a couple of years when she starts driving. Then again, for about the same price I could get a post 96 supercharged Cobra convertable with close to 500 hp. At my altitude 4,200+ feet, I'm sold on forced induction.
 

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Like many V enthusiasts, my Goodyear runflats were finished at 7,000 miles. My car had come with four lock-lugs but no key (?!). I asked the dealer to remove the locking lugs with their master kit, which I am told most larger dealerships have to perform such operations. Two days later they had removed all four locking lugs and severely gouged every rim! In addition, they had charged me $100 to remove the lugs for which they had not provided the key to begin with!

Furious, I told the Service Rep that I wanted new rims. He said new ones had been ordered from Michigan and three days later my V had “replacement” rims (most likely, they had rehabilitated my originals). Naturally I insisted they omit the $100 charge for screwing up my wheels, which they did. Ultimately what amazed me was that some dumbass actually chiseled off every locking lug nut knowing he was gouging the rims!

Our difference is: I had my work performed at Cadillac, therefore, they remedied the problem—sorta.
 

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How do you break a wheel lug nut, especially the keyed one? I can see how you might break a key either by over tightening the lug nut or trying to remove one that has already been put on too tight, but it would seem to very difficult to break the nut itself.
 

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How do you break a wheel lug nut, especially the keyed one?
All I can say is that it shattered. The dealer managed to drill out the stud, further damaging the wheel. They bought me a new one, no questions asked. Also told them that my low coolant alarm went off. They bought me a new radiator too. Of course, the tire dealer didn’t charge me either for the three tires that they mounted and balanced, since they’re the ones that broke the lug nut. All in all, things turned out much better than anticipated. I had the dealer reprogram the ECM for the high oil temp, but I’m still having problems with a high temp alarm.
 
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