Hmm, I would have thought it would have shut the lights off automatically. :hmm: I know theres been a time or two where I've been washing my car with the stereo on and when I got back in, it said "battery save on" or something, but the lights and radio still worked normally (and it started no problem). This was after about 45min or so of radio on/(head)lights off/engine off.tomm said: