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I'm looking at the LF4 cal file with HP Tuners right now and there are no calibrations which I can find for the exhaust by-passes.

As "Djason" says above, control of the exhaust bypasses lies with the BCM. There is no DIY tuning software which supports changing the calibration of a BCM.

With modern cars, part of what engineers use to design exhaust systems is the acoustic attenuation which comes with exhaust gas flowing through a cat converter. When you remove the cats it's like if, on a car from the "pre-cat" era, you changed to a much smaller muffler.

Reality is that when you cut off the cats, you make a huge change in the acoustic design of the exhaust system and the result is–yes, you gain some performance, but you also gain noise, resonance (ie: drone) and, in this case, an unattractive sound quality.

I think you're going to wait a long time, if ever, for someone to start selling an ATS-V muffler designed to work on a car with no cats. With the EPA moving to, starting in July, outlaw any modification of emissions control systems, even for off-highway use, no aftermarket exhaust mfg is going to see a business case for such a product. My advice is to start designing your own solution to the problem. The guy who sells the cat-less DPs ought to get involved here and support the people who've bought the DPs but hate the sound quality. Betcha he finds that it's one thing to replace the cats with a couple pieces of pipe but it's a "whole 'nother ball of wax" to design mufflers which sound good.
 

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We looked into trying to build a separate controller for the exhaust valves, but after testing we found out that they use logic and work with other modules and would require a pulsewidth modulated module to be made which kind of exceeds what we are capable of in a timely cost effective manor. Someone like Lingenfelter would be a good place to manufacture something like this.
 

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We looked into trying to build a separate controller for the exhaust valves, but after testing we found out that they use logic and work with other modules and would require a pulsewidth modulated module to be made which kind of exceeds what we are capable of in a timely cost effective manor. Someone like Lingenfelter would be a good place to manufacture something like this.
Thanks for looking into this Mike. Looks like I'll be waiting to see what the aftermarket comes up with or take the plunge and split the stock muffler to wrap the pipe inside the so-called "muffler" with the bi-mode valves. There are packing materials that are high temperature resistant that provide great sound attenuation and highly resilient to turbulent exhaust flows similar to the cutout in the pic.



 

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Do all ATS V's have cylander deactivation? Where is the personalization menu to turn off engine sound enhancement?

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Do all ATS V's have cylander deactivation? Where is the personalization menu to turn off engine sound enhancement?

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Do all of the ATS V's have cylinder deactivation? Where is the personalization menu to turn off engine sound enhancement?

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It is possible to personalize the exhaust sound. When engine sound enhancement is turned off via the personalization menu, the exhaust tailpipe valves will be put into track mode no matter which vehicle mode (Winter/Eco, Tour, Sport, or Track) is displayed on the drivers instrument panel.

Do all ATS V's have cylander deactivation? Where is the personalization menu to turn off engine sound enhancement?
 

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ATS-V's do not have cylinder deactivation and you cannot customize the exhaust valves. You have 2 options, open or closed. You can pull the fuse to have them open all the time or use the system the way it was designed. Another option is to replace the factory exhaust with a different system that eliminates the NPP muffler. Not sure what options are available, but I am waiting on WeaponX's system.
 

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We have been working with HP Tuners for the last six months trying to locate the missing tables for ATS-V exhaust valve parameters. Should have some good news to report on this functionality within the next week or two. From that point forward, all Tapout tunes will include whatever exhaust valve settings we're able to access. We'll also email no charge updates to everyone who already has our tune and requests something different with regard to exhaust valve operation.
 

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ATS-V's do not have cylinder deactivation and you cannot customize the exhaust valves. You have 2 options, open or closed. You can pull the fuse to have them open all the time or use the system the way it was designed. Another option is to replace the factory exhaust with a different system that eliminates the NPP muffler. Not sure what options are available, but I am waiting on WeaponX's system.
I'm not sure how this "cylinder deactivation"got started. Like you said, there is no cylinder deactivation in this vehicle. Also, the exhaust valve is more than just for sound. When it is open it also allows more flow through the exhaust which allows for the higher HP numbers to be reached. If you keep the valve closed your restricting the flow and inhibiting your power. The added restriction could also cause back pressure issues when running WOT since the car is tuned to run with the exhaust open during high HP scenarios, even when you're in touring mode.
 

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Just noticed this thread was resurrected. As I understand, looking at how the valves work...they are not PWM but on or off valves. Voltage applied - they close. Voltage removed - they open (spring assisted). I don't believe they are held slightly open/closed for any duration. With that being said, a simple switch which interrupts the power will allow one to open and close them at will, just not keep them partially opened. I took the easy way out...just pulled the relay. Now they are always open. If I go on a long road trip and want the exhaust to be dead quite, it takes all of 30 seconds to pop the really back in.

If someone is enterprising, simply make a plug and play switch (remote control would be the tits) that interrupts power to the valves. Done!
 

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Just noticed this thread was resurrected. As I understand, looking at how the valves work...they are not PWM but on or off valves. Voltage applied - they close. Voltage removed - they open (spring assisted). I don't believe they are held slightly open/closed for any duration. With that being said, a simple switch which interrupts the power will allow one to open and close them at will, just not keep them partially opened. I took the easy way out...just pulled the relay. Now they are always open. If I go on a long road trip and want the exhaust to be dead quite, it takes all of 30 seconds to pop the really back in.

If someone is enterprising, simply make a plug and play switch (remote control would be the tits) that interrupts power to the valves. Done!
In my 17, valve operation is configurable from the same menu as various driver mode settings. They can be set to "track" mode, while the car is in "touring". The same for a few other parameters. Someone in another thread mentioned that this functionality was not available in 16.
So for 17, I do not believe it is necessary to pull the relay to keep them open at all times.
 

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In my 17, valve operation is configurable from the same menu as various driver mode settings. They can be set to "track" mode, while the car is in "touring". The same for a few other parameters. Someone in another thread mentioned that this functionality was not available in 16.
So for 17, I do not believe it is necessary to pull the relay to keep them open at all times.
These small extras really make me jealous of 17+ owners.
 

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Even in sport or track mode the valves do not stay open all the time, at least on my 2016 M6 car... In sport & track mode the valves stay open at idle, and open in first, second, and third, but once you get to fourth gear they close if you're easy on the throttle (<50% TPS or so) and under about 3500rpm, probably to keep NVH down at what are likely to be freeway cruising speeds and conditions. Put your foot back in it though in fourth/fifth/sixth and they open back up to allow more flow and less backpressure.

Also, in touring mode, the valves are normally closed but will open in any gear once you go past about 3500rpm (even at light throttle) or go beyond about 50% TPS.

The valve behavior wasn't very obvious with the stock exhaust, but once I put the Borla system on the valves opening and closing behavior based on RPM/TPS/gear/mode became more apparent as the volume change between valves closed and valves open was much more pronounced than with the factory muffler.

Not sure how the valves respond on A8 cars, but it's probably similar.

Finally, as others have said I wish my 2016 had the ability to customize the steering/suspension/exhaust settings for each mode like the 2017s & 2018s...
 

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Even in sport or track mode the valves do not stay open all the time, at least on my 2016 M6 car... In sport & track mode the valves stay open at idle, and open in first, second, and third, but once you get to fourth gear they close if you're easy on the throttle (<50% TPS) and under about 3500rpm, probably to keep NVH down at what are likely to be freeway cruising speeds and conditions. Put your foot back in it though in fourth/fifth/sixth and they open back up to allow more flow and less backpressure.

Also, in touring mode, the valves are normally closed but will open in any gear once you go past about 3500rpm (even at light throttle) or go beyond about 50% TPS...
Thanks for clarifying this. That makes sense. I hardly see any reason to pull the relay under these conditions. Dont need more noise when I am cruising on the expressway.
 

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Just noticed this thread was resurrected. As I understand, looking at how the valves work...they are not PWM but on or off valves. Voltage applied - they close. Voltage removed - they open (spring assisted). I don't believe they are held slightly open/closed for any duration. With that being said, a simple switch which interrupts the power will allow one to open and close them at will, just not keep them partially opened. I took the easy way out...just pulled the relay. Now they are always open. If I go on a long road trip and want the exhaust to be dead quite, it takes all of 30 seconds to pop the really back in.

If someone is enterprising, simply make a plug and play switch (remote control would be the tits) that interrupts power to the valves. Done!
hey what relay did you pull?
 

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Relay #41 in trunk, left side fuse panel. This is for the ATS-V by the way. DOES NOT DRONE on the highway either. In my opinion, this is the best bang for your buck if you want more volume out of your V. While I’d love to get an aftermarket exhaust, spending about $2,000 for sound doesn’t make sense to me. I can do a lot of performance and appearance mods for that kind of money. Just my $0.02


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Relay #41 in trunk, left side fuse panel. This is for the ATS-V by the way. DOES NOT DRONE on the highway either. In my opinion, this is the best bang for your buck if you want more volume out of your V. While I’d love to get an aftermarket exhaust, spending about $2,000 for sound doesn’t make sense to me. I can do a lot of performance and appearance mods for that kind of money. Just my $0.02


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Not sure if this is a joke or a mistake - but #41 is the fuel pump relay, do NOT pull that. The fuse you're looking for is #35. The fuse cover will claim it's unused, but the updated manual shows it's for exhaust. (posted to imgur and the forum so people can see it even if they aren't logged in)


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Not sure if this is a joke or a mistake - but #41 is the fuel pump relay, do NOT pull that. The fuse you're looking for is #35. The fuse cover will claim it's unused, but the updated manual shows it's for exhaust. (posted to imgur and the forum so people can see it even if they aren't logged in)


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My 2016 V shows fuse #41 is correct, and it's labeled "EXH VLV (LT4/LF4/LGX)". The fuel pump fuse is #37. And yes, I do have the updated fuse box sticker from that early recall. My car definitely still starts, and the flaps are open, so the # fuse may vary by the car's year.
 

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My 2016 V shows fuse #41 is correct, and it's labeled "EXH VLV (LT4/LF4/LGX)". The fuel pump fuse is #37. And yes, I do have the updated fuse box sticker from that early recall. My car definitely still starts, and the flaps are open, so the # fuse may vary by the car's year.

^^ Thanks for the heads up - I only checked 17 and 18, I forgot they made so many changes between 16/17. 41 it is for the 2016 folks.
 
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