I remain skeptical but have no data, either way, to endorse or condemn.
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Year and half later, still a SCAM..... 
Re: zMax successfully proved all their performance claims with ASTM/SAE Tests
Sorry but your posting false information about zMax. zMax did successfully prove each and every one of their performance claims through extensive ASTM/SAE Testing. The BITOG site has members posting the independent test info.
GM Cadillac Northstar Division, did conduct a 14 month, 80 car field performance evaluation with zMax helping the oil burn and piston noise problems very successfully.
GM Cadillac Northstar Division then issued a PI ( Performance Information ) recommending the use of zMax. It's posted on the BITOG site so members, check it out.
Tech savy members will comprehend and appreciate all the field and lab test evaluating the product has done over the last 50 years.
zMax successfully tested and kept every performance claim when challenged once back in 2001 by the FTC.
Their marketing company hired to do their Infomercial had put a percent number next to the fuel mileage claim and that cost the company 1 million for that marketing error. Percent numbers are not allowed because of the variables in driving habits, vehicle types, etc for the average consumer driving a vehicle.
Today, years later ( well beyond a year and a half ) since the case was concluded in 2003, zMax continues to make each and every one of it's performance claims.
You'd be hard pressed to find another product with zMax's extensive lab and field performance testing background.
BaTu...........Year and half later, still a SCAM.....
Sorry but your posting false information about zMax. zMax did successfully prove each and every one of their performance claims through extensive ASTM/SAE Testing. The BITOG site has members posting the independent test info.
GM Cadillac Northstar Division, did conduct a 14 month, 80 car field performance evaluation with zMax helping the oil burn and piston noise problems very successfully.
GM Cadillac Northstar Division then issued a PI ( Performance Information ) recommending the use of zMax. It's posted on the BITOG site so members, check it out.
Tech savy members will comprehend and appreciate all the field and lab test evaluating the product has done over the last 50 years.
zMax successfully tested and kept every performance claim when challenged once back in 2001 by the FTC.
Their marketing company hired to do their Infomercial had put a percent number next to the fuel mileage claim and that cost the company 1 million for that marketing error. Percent numbers are not allowed because of the variables in driving habits, vehicle types, etc for the average consumer driving a vehicle.
Today, years later ( well beyond a year and a half ) since the case was concluded in 2003, zMax continues to make each and every one of it's performance claims.
You'd be hard pressed to find another product with zMax's extensive lab and field performance testing background.
So Ahh,,, racetek27.... How long have you worked for Zmax You on commission???
Is the "27" your age? (just curious)
If the FCC claims were ultimately proved false, as you're claiming, please provide evidence of that to back up your claims... (this is, of course, something not from Zmax themselves or from the "shills" at BITOG. But rather an independent conclusion, preferably from the FCC)
Dose it exist, or is this just more smoke & mirrors? I certainly haven't followed the story since it came out, but then Zmax isn't putting food on my table
You on commission??? Is the "27" your age? (just curious)
If the FCC claims were ultimately proved false, as you're claiming, please provide evidence of that to back up your claims... (this is, of course, something not from Zmax themselves or from the "shills" at BITOG. But rather an independent conclusion, preferably from the FCC)
Dose it exist, or is this just more smoke & mirrors? I certainly haven't followed the story since it came out, but then Zmax isn't putting food on my table
Unfortunately, Bob (the BITOG quoted above) has lost all his credibility since it has come to light that he is a consultant for, and in the general employ of, the "oil additive industry"
He's no source, he's someone else for whom Zmax is putting food on his table
The FCC, on the other hand, isn't currently on Zmax's payroll, They were the one who brought the complaint, I'd like to see Their resolution (and the fact that they might not have further pursued the situation doesn't carry water either. I'm sure they have a "full plate" and have to prioritize their cases)
BaTu,So Ahh,,, racetek27.... How long have you worked for Zmax
Is the "27" your age? (just curious)
If the FCC claims were ultimately proved false, as you're claiming, please provide evidence of that to back up your claims... (this is, of course, something not from Zmax themselves or from the "shills" at BITOG. But rather an independent conclusion, preferably from the FCC)
Dose it exist, or is this just more smoke & mirrors? I certainly haven't followed the story since it came out, but then Zmax isn't putting food on my table
Lol, since you've asked.... Actually the 27 stands for several things.... that's the number of years that I've rebuilt aircraft engines in my FAA Certified Repair Station using AvBlend/zMax in all my customers engines .... also that's the number of our Dallara- Oldsmobile V8 powered Indy 500 car which we owned and built up our own engines for in the IRL. It's the same car that our driver Jim Guthrie beat Tony Stewart driving the Menard/Glidden car at the Phoenix 200 race in a 25 lap trophy dash finish.
Needless to say that I know my product and how it works in engines... very well ! The question is not how long I've worked for zMax but how many years as an experienced engine builder/technician, that I've used the product extensively and can talk engine theory-application very knowledgeable to anyone on this site...... unlike yourself who is throwing out unsupported and false post's about zMax.
Anyone can log onto the FTC site and look up the case as it's public information. The case lasted 2.5 years, which is not a 50 yard dash and when zMax satisfied the FTC and their expert witnesses, zMax was granted the right to make each and every performance claim ( less a percentage number on it's fuel mileage improvement claim ).
You ask does it exist ??? and you state you haven't followed the story ??? I ask then why are you making negative statements about the case when you haven't followed it, don't have a clue about it or taken the time to look up the information that's all available to read ?
Type in Bob is the Oil Guy zmax cadillac and something should show up to click on directly to. And BuTu, the actual Cadillac PI is shown on the post !!!!!!
So, you seem to be dodging the question..... You know, the QUESTION - have you ever been employed by, or received money from Zmax :devil:
Including you? After all it was you who resurrected this old thread to say the FCC claim was wrong....
Find it, post it, and I'll believe it!
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