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Cause I can't get the damned slide off of this one. It's a 17, that I'm thinking about buying from a friend, cause he's hurting for money and doesn't need it, and the price is right, but I can't get the damn thing apart! I found the online manual, it says to pull the slide back about 3mm, and pull the slide lock, which I assume is the little button just forward and above the trigger, and that the slide should go forward and up to come apart, just like any other pistol in the world. This one doesn't seem to want to go. It wants to try, but then it'll click and go back into place and the slide lock won't disengage. Getting angry. :D
 

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I don't like this. You have to pull the trigger before pulling back the slide and pulling down the slide release? Doesn't work for me. I don't think I'm going to keep it.
 

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Yea, you just had to have pulled the trigger before you pull the slide back, which, by the way, I don't feel comfortable doing it. I think that's going to be the defining point in whether I buy it or not. I just don't like the idea of it. I know, I know...glocks are reliable as hell and great and everyone loves them, but I've never been a fan, and this just kind of did it for me.
 

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Yea, you just had to have pulled the trigger before you pull the slide back, which, by the way, I don't feel comfortable doing it. I think that's going to be the defining point in whether I buy it or not. I just don't like the idea of it. I know, I know...glocks are reliable as hell and great and everyone loves them, but I've never been a fan, and this just kind of did it for me.
Never had a problem with my Glocks, or dry firing them before field stripping. Any firearm I handle, I check.....and double check, then check again that it is unloaded (whether I pull the trigger or not). If you don't feel comfortable pulling the trigger on an unloaded gun I'd say you need more experience with firearms in general. That's JMHO....please don't take offense to that. The people who confess to being uncomfortable with Glocks are generally suffering from a lack of experience with them. They're 100% safe.....unless, of course, they're in a cop's hands. :canttalk: :lildevil: :D

There are other polymer frame sidearms that reguire pulling the trigger before removing the slide. Of course their designs are basically copies of the Glock design. If you bought it and need any help or advice, I'll be happy to try to help. :D
 

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If you don't feel comfortable pulling the trigger on an unloaded gun I'd say you need more experience with firearms in general. That's JMHO....please don't take offense to that. The people who confess to being uncomfortable with Glocks are generally suffering from a lack of experience with them.
The man knows his firearms.
 

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I'm uncomfortable with them because they have no external safety, which means its easy to accidentally fire the gun, whether it be you drawing it/putt ing it back into your holster, or say if a little kid gets a hold of it and decides to play with it.

Also, let's not forget that Glock pistols are famous for the kB! phenomenom, since they have unsupported chambers. For those who don't know, that's when a bullet misfires in a Glock and explodes (ka-BOOM!) sending shrapnel everywhere, including towards the shooter. Since the guns are made out of plastic, they are much more susceptible to this than any other gun out there.

They're reliable and rugged, and they're a great semi-auto. But they serve no real purpose except to be a gangsta pistol since they're so easy to just pick up and fire. You don't see rappers and thugs with 1911s or even S&W Sigmas; they all seem to have black glocks with the 17-round magazines. Who needs that large of a magazine in a pistol unless you're "getting your gun off.":rolleyes:
 

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I'm uncomfortable with them because they have no external safety, which means its easy to accidentally fire the gun, whether it be you drawing it/putt ing it back into your holster, or say if a little kid gets a hold of it and decides to play with it.
Well Ben where to start? While Glock pistols do not have a safety catch or switch, they do have 3 safeties, which is equal to the number of safeties on the Springfield 1911 pictured above. And one of those safeties IS external.

http://www.glock.com/_safe_action_.htm

I suppose you'd consider the average revolver dangerous because it also lacks a safety selector switch? People properly trained will keep their finger off the trigger of a firearm until they're ready to fire to avoid negligent discharge. People who draw their sidearm with their finger resting on its trigger are guilty of negligent discharge.....not accidental.

And keeping firearms out of the hands of children is just part of being a responsible gun owner IMO. Unless I'm toting, mine are securely locked in a 1000 lb safe.

And for the love of God.....why do you insist on comparing the 1911 to a Glock? Apples to oranges man!!!

Please see my comment below from a previous post:


ME said:
The people who confess to being uncomfortable with Glocks are generally suffering from a lack of experience with them. They're 100% safe.....unless, of course, they're in a cop's hands


ben72227 said:
Also, let's not forget that Glock pistols are famous for the kB! phenomenom, since they have unsupported chambers. For those who don't know, that's when a bullet misfires in a Glock and explodes (ka-BOOM!) sending shrapnel everywhere, including towards the shooter. Since the guns are made out of plastic, they are much more susceptible to this than any other gun out there.
This is full of ignorance. "Some guy"......."somewhere," fired a squib round in a 40 cal Glock and failed to recognize it. He tried to fire another round after the squib, and his pistol exploded. This can happen to any firearm....not just pistols, and not just Glocks. And "another guy" fired hot reloaded lead ammo that was far out of spec through a Glock, and his firearm exploded in his face. Since "these guys" posted their pics of a busted Glock, they have been "famous" for going kaboom.....according to 1911 fans and owners only. :helpless:

Of course, the FBI documented 50,000 rounds fired through Glock service pistols without a single part failure. I'm sure that holds no weight with you though.



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Since the guns are made out of plastic, they are much more susceptible to this than any other gun out there.
Glocks are made from polymer and steel. The polymer parts contain some steel to give them extra strength and rigidity. The slide and barrel are made from steel. If you shoot weak cased, +P, hot reloaded ammo out of a firearm you assume certain risks.....even with all steel guns.

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They're reliable and rugged, and they're a great semi-auto. But they serve no real purpose except to be a gangsta pistol since they're so easy to just pick up and fire. You don't see rappers and thugs with 1911s or even S&W Sigmas; they all seem to have black glocks with the 17-round magazines. Who needs that large of a magazine in a pistol unless you're "getting your gun off.":rolleyes:
The reason law enforcement agencies have almost totally devoted their sidearm needs to Glock is because they are reliable, light weight, reasonably accurate, and simple to operate (all criteria of a good battle-ready firearm). Apparently gangstas have the same exacting standards. ;) :D



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They're reliable and rugged, and they're a great semi-auto.
This is the closest you came to sounding like you've ever actually handled or fired a Glock. My only criticism is that they are a little rough to shoot several hundred rounds through. But then, so are almost all of the other polymer framed postols.
 

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I'm a huge fan of my Sig 226. Fell in love with it the minute I picked it up. It just felt "right" and I bought it and havn't looked back. I was down to a Glock 17 and the Sig 226 as my final two choices, and after shooting them both at the range, I had to have a Sig. I haven't fired the Glock enough to have an opinion yet, but I'll get back to ya after Wednesday when myself and a couple of CJ majors are heading to the range again...
 

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I want a Desert Eagle .50
I saw it in a movie and it looked badass.
Or a .44 magnum is always good too :cool2:
 

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I'm a huge fan of my Sig 226. Fell in love with it the minute I picked it up. It just felt "right" and I bought it and havn't looked back. I was down to a Glock 17 and the Sig 226 as my final two choices, and after shooting them both at the range, I had to have a Sig. I haven't fired the Glock enough to have an opinion yet, but I'll get back to ya after Wednesday when myself and a couple of CJ majors are heading to the range again...
I'm also a Sig Sauer fan and, the 226 is a great sidearm. I wouldn't mind having the 229 in 40 caliber. It may even end up in my collection after the first of the year. A good friend of mine in Little Rock carries the 229 40 caliber and it shoots like a dream.


Hey I~LUV~Caddys8792 if you like DE then you should do a search. There was a firearms discussion involving DE just a few months back in current issues forum IIRC. I've never shot the 50 but I've heard their recoil is abusive. The 50 is an expensive round making it impractible for shooting much at the range, and it's far too powerful for personal or home defense. I have always followed that with admitting it has a definate cool factor found in no other pistol. :D
 

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Yeah the DE50 is too much gun for me, the recoil would snap my wrists. And it's too powerful for personal/home/cadillac defence. Who makes that gun?

Who uses it mainly? The Mafia?
 

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I~LUV~Caddys8792 said:
Yeah the DE50 is too much gun for me, the recoil would snap my wrists. And it's too powerful for personal/home/cadillac defence. Who makes that gun?

Who uses it mainly? The Mafia?
The gun is owned by Magnum Research. It's an American company, but the firearms are actually manufactured in Israel by IMI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Military_Industries

http://www.magnumresearch.com/

I don't actually know of anyone who owns a DE in magnum caliber. They are said to be primarily target pistols. They are always really popular with the hollywood movie makers because of their cool factor.
 

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I cant view that now, the service at my work has blocked just about everything possible. All I can do is sit on here, autotrader, and auto manufacturers sites. I can't even go on ebay anymore!

Damn You websense!
 
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