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The yellow plug is giving my a little trouble taking it off. Could I cut the wire and rewire??
 

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Gaaaahhh NO please don't cut airbag wires. The connectors can be a pain to get apart. Use a small flat blade screwdriver or two and find the clips with a flashlight.
 

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Cut already, spliced and installed. Didn't want to damage the bag and don't have much time left with the car.
 

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Nice, screw with someones life possible by hacking and half ass splicing the wiring back together... Bet you dump it on some poor person before it goes off in your face...
 

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Nice, screw with someones life possible by hacking and half ass splicing the wiring back together... Bet you dump it on some poor person before it goes off in your face...
Thank you for the kind words and the prejudgment. What would make you think they were half ass spliced??? Are you saying if it's not half ass spliced and done properly, the "poor person I dump it on", will have nothing to worry about?
 

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The shop one town over from me was known for installing used and aftermarket unproven air bags in reconstructed Cadillacs that he specialized in.
He did a good job on the bodywork of these rebuilt wrecks but electrically and mechanically he was weak.
After several epic air bag failures in cars he repaired or on ones he sold he wound up in court.
It's unlawful to install used airbags and unlawful for salvage yards to sell them.
The court levied massive fines on him and forced him to close his shop 2 years ago.
He was subsequently jailed last year but on other charges after the facts.

Never mess with used airbags. It can come back at you like an alligator up your ass.

At our new car dealership if a customer brings a trade to the door and the airbags have been removed or tampered with, and we become fully aware of it, we must declare that issue when we resell it at the auction or scrap it.
We won't retail that car.
Handling that car is a huge liability if something goes wrong.

The proper repairs on airbag deployed vehicles should be carried out by a certified technician and only factory fresh OE parts should be utilized.

The legal system is very clear on this issue. Even Carfax has a line for Airbag deployment for collision cars.
The courts take airbag issues very seriously these days..
 

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Thank you for the kind words and the prejudgment. What would make you think they were half ass spliced??? Are you saying if it's not half ass spliced and done properly, the "poor person I dump it on", will have nothing to worry about?
Because you couldn't get a clip off so i bet your wire splicing skills suck as well and unless done perfectly could effect airbag deployment. I seriously doubt from your posts you did it correctly and it pisses me off when people screw with safety stuff and dump their cars. Per your statement of you dont have to live with it long from which is implied you are half assing a repair so you can dump the car. If I am wrong and you are willing to drive the car yourself knowing what you did and NOT sell it to some unknowing person I retract my statements. When and if you sell it and the new owner doesn't know you screwed with them they shall apply again.
 

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AIRBAGS......only service with NEW factory OE parts. And document your repairs. While standing before the judge you'll appreciate this advice.
 

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Because you couldn't get a clip off so i bet your wire splicing skills suck as well and unless done perfectly could effect airbag deployment. I seriously doubt from your posts you did it correctly and it pisses me off when people screw with safety stuff and dump their cars. Per your statement of you dont have to live with it long from which is implied you are half assing a repair so you can dump the car. If I am wrong and you are willing to drive the car yourself knowing what you did and NOT sell it to some unknowing person I retract my statements. When and if you sell it and the new owner doesn't know you screwed with them they shall apply again.
Not much time left with the parts car, not the car I'm driving you hole. See, that's what happens when men get their panties in a bunch, and don't know what they're talking about. They prejudge and assume before they know anything, then look like an ass on a public forum. Ask questions before you start talking big and throwing dirt around. Take a chill pill dude or find someone else to bitch at.

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2manyhotrods said:
The shop one town over from me was known for installing used and aftermarket unproven air bags in reconstructed Cadillacs that he specialized in. He did a good job on the bodywork of these rebuilt wrecks but electrically and mechanically he was weak. After several epic air bag failures in cars he repaired or on ones he sold he wound up in court. It's unlawful to install used airbags and unlawful for savage yards to sell them. The court levied massive fines on him and forced him to close his shop 2 years ago. He was subsequently jailed last year but on other charges after the facts. Never mess with used airbags. It can come back at you like an alligator up your ass. At our new car dealership if a customer brings a trade to the door and the airbags have been removed or tampered with, and we become fully aware of it, we must declare that issue when we resell it at the auction or scrap it. We won't retail that car. Handling that car is a huge liability if something goes wrong. The proper repairs on airbag deployed vehicles should be carried out by a certified technician and only factory fresh OE parts should be utilized. The legal system is very clear on this issue. Even Carfax has a line for Airbag deployment for collision cars. The courts take airbag issues very seriously these days..
Several "EPIC" air bag failures?? This guy must've really been doing a number of air bag repairs, and sounds like he had an unusual high number of customers getting into car accidents. Thanks for your concern. I see nobody yet has told me it wouldn't work or not possible...I drove the car last night and not a thing. You guys make me want to REALLY test it, or take the pad a part to take a picture of the splice.

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For future folk that need to replace an air bag and have troubles getting the wire off of the bag, remove the black cover underneath the dash on the passenger side and unhook the air bag wire harness (green and white wires with a yellow wrap). It's located closer to the door on the right side underneath the dash. After you unscrew the four bolts holding in the air bag and unhook the harness, the bag will come right out.
 

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May I remind you that YOU are the one that asked if OK to cut the wires. Obviously YOU didn't know it wasn't the right thing to do. So for YOUR reference don't post stupid shit you do and I won't ride your ass for doing it.
Even if you were cutting the airbag out of parts car it could have deployed and injured you.
I don't make assumptions, I went off exactly what you posted and FYI I cant get my shorts in a bunch... Not wearing any. :)
 

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rodnok01 said:
May I remind you that YOU are the one that asked if OK to cut the wires. Obviously YOU didn't know it wasn't the right thing to do. So for YOUR reference don't post stupid shit you do and I won't ride your ass for doing it. Even if you were cutting the airbag out of parts car it could have deployed and injured you. I don't make assumptions, I went off exactly what you posted and FYI I cant get my shorts in a bunch... Not wearing any. :)

Could the bag really deploy if the battery was unhooked and the fuse pulled?? Hmmmmmm, you definitely are good at making assumptions. I think that's 3 so far, one in each of your posts. Find someone else's ass to ride buddy, I don't get down with ass riding with other men. Prob explains the reason why you're not wearing any shorts.
 

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You are really over your head on this job. The more you slave away on it the deeper you get into trouble.
Can you show us some clear digital pictures of this project so maybe the Forum can bail you out.

If this was my deal I would have also caved into some outside help, probably much sooner. These car aren't friendly to back yard amateur repairs.
These are the most sophisticated domestic automobiles of the late 80's-early90's to come before many of us.
 

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2manyhotrods said:
You are really over your head on this job. The more you slave away on it the deeper you get into trouble. Can you show us some clear digital pictures of this project so maybe the Forum can bail you out. If this was my deal I would have also caved into some outside help, probably much sooner. These car aren't friendly to back yard amateur repairs. These are the most sophisticated domestic automobiles of the late 80's-early90's to come before many of us.
The car was put back together last week. Everything's fine on it. Going to let the professionals do the drivers side. I'm not sure if I would call myself an amateur when it comes to these cars. I myself have done them all from starters, alternators, struts, plenum ducts and lots in between. My buddy I'm working with has done two complete head gasket jobs for me. It was just that the plug on the air bag itself wouldn't unplug and I didn't want to damage the end by yanking on it. That was the only reason I inquired. Weird deal with that but finally got her in. Going to order the drivers off of eBay and get it installed at the shop.
 
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