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So I guess some people have been curious as to how the old Acura 3.2TL Type-S stacked up against the CTS. 260hp VTEC is quite impressive, I'll say that much. So here's the story. My buddy called me up last weekend and wanted to get some races together; the big boys were coming out; 10 second imports, some badass muscle, possibility of a McLaren SLR and a Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale...oh yeah, and my CTS :)

So since every car coming out was at least a 4.5 second 0-60 and a sub 12 quarter, I told them I would just roll around with them and be a spotter car in case the cops were to roll on us. I guess they felt bad so they called up another one of my buddies with a 2000 Acura 3.2TL Type-S. We hooked up some runs and we went up to a long, deserted strip at the foot of the mountains on the outskirts of the city where we do our drift attacks and mountain bombing runs.

Lined em up, we ran three times from a dig. TC off, Stabilitrak off, A/C off, sport mode on. Brakestood him all three runs and got the hop off the start; all three runs ended the same. Started out and had about three lengths on him at around 40mph, then the gap stayed the same and we both pulled equally, no progress from anybody; shut it off at around 90mph.

Did one run from a 20mph roll, this one was interesting. Got three beep'd from a trailing car, and we both floored it and took off. We both got a good hop so we were literally nose to nose until I hit third gear when I started to walk away. Got around a length on him and held that until around 90mph when I heard his engine hit vtec and he started walking up on me. He continued to walk up until he had half a length on me at around 110-120mph. Shut it off at 120 cause of road conditions.

Overall, good race. Have to note that he couldn't figure out how to turn the traction control off on his car; he would launch and I could hear the tires stutter and the throttle let out a bit. Otherwise, the runs from a stop might have been more intense. So that's that. Look forward to running him again on a strip so we can actually take it to the speed limiters; I have a feeling his top end is too strong.

Oh yeah, my car is stock. Volant coming though; want it on before I run him again.
 

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I thought it was me, but a lot of CTS owners seem to love to race their CTS!

I topped my CTS at 155 mph twice. The manual says it should top at 152. It does now, because I never got it over 150 after that. I got a kill story on a bmw 535. Though I couldn't tell in the dark if that could've been a Diesel. Either way the BMW was heavier anyway.

I thought I could keep myself from driving so fast on the Autobahn, because it sucks gas. But once you been there, it's addictive. And it's quite boring to drive 80 for a 385 Mile stretch twice every weekend...
 

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Acura has had to lower the horsepower claims for a few of its cars after having independent third party SAE tests done on them. So perhaps the Acura 3.2TL you raced against didn't really have 260 HP as advertised. I believe GM has actually raised their HP ratings on a few of their engines using the same tests. So your car and his were probably more evenly matched than you might think. Not being able to shut off the traction control would certainly be a major hinderance. Good story though!

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ummm u do relize that our cars have "v-tech" also, Infact our is called VVT V-tech has settings like high,med and low where our cars do it on the fly and u end up with many different settings, And please let me know what "v-tech" sounds like.
 

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joeyblaze said:
ummm u do relize that our cars have "v-tech" also, Infact our is called VVT V-tech has settings like high,med and low where our cars do it on the fly and u end up with many different settings, And please let me know what "v-tech" sounds like.
LOL. I was thinking about to type this too. VTEC is just a rudimentary VVT system. It was the first VVT invented and hasn't really advanced much. The VVT system in the high feature V6 is computer controlled and can be modulated at any RPM to any timing in range to get the most torque for the entire RPM range. The VTEC only optimizes timing in three RPM ranges by using difference sets of cams and rockers than fall into use.

O yea, great story. Show those VTEC engines what a real VVT system can do.
 

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joeyblaze said:
ummm u do relize that our cars have "v-tech" also, Infact our is called VVT V-tech has settings like high,med and low where our cars do it on the fly and u end up with many different settings, And please let me know what "v-tech" sounds like.
Heh, yeah, I'm well aware, but since Honda's VTEC is so heralded, since it is really the original, I thought I would add it in to note that it pulled at a certain range; not to make it sound like it had a big advantage over our 3.6's system which is more advanced and has variable timing on both the intake and exhaust valves, unlike most other VVT systems. Technically their system could be called VVT, except Variable Valve Timing and Electronic Lift Control sounds better as, VTEC.
 

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Heh, yeah, I'm well aware, but since Honda's VTEC is so heralded, since it is really the original, I thought I would add it in to note that it pulled at a certain range; not to make it sound like it had a big advantage over our 3.6's system which is more advanced and has variable timing on both the intake and exhaust valves, unlike most other VVT systems. Technically their system could be called VVT, except Variable Valve Timing and Electronic Lift Control sounds better as, VTEC
very true just busting balls :)
 

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BishopRuger said:
Hey Krank how's that M35?? that's a very nice car, i'm a big fan of that and the M45..
It's a very nice car, and an exceptional value at that price. Infiniti really knew what they were doing; I first saw it at the SF Intl. auto show last year and immediately felt an attraction. I would be completely confident driving it out to meets and putting it up with top-line BMW's and Mercedes'. The 3.5 liter V6 is a proven, bomb-proof engine as seen in the G35, and the 4.5 liter V8 is breathtakingly powerful and quick. Everything about the car is near perfect, handling, comfort, luxury, power, etc; feels like how the CTS PDX should have felt, IMO. But unfortunately it's a member of the family collection and I don't get to drive it that often, I still like my CTS better. :)
 

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Really, so it stacks up pretty nicely with the CTS huh.. Thats good to know, I was considering getting into the M35 or 45 (Dependings on my job situation) next year. We'll see, still looking at the STS and STS-V too..
 
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