[Junior1]

Re: Need help with oil cooler

"Pissinuoff" has a cooler set up. He may be helpful on this. Here is what I've learned so far. First, if your car has headers, there are some challenges. If your car doesn't have headers then Katech or Lingenfelter has an bolt on cooler adapters (10AN) that allow you to have the factory oil filter location but you must by an inline thermostat. Or you can purchase the Mocal adapter with a built in thermostat. If you have headers then you can go to smaller 8AN fittings and use the Derale adapter which allows you to have the factory oil filter location. If you want to go to 10AN fittings (my preference) and you have headers, then you will have to get a remote filter set up because space is very tight and I can't see how to make the lines fit. The tough part is finding a place to mount the filter. Inside the fender well looks like the best spot I've located so far. Now I have never met anyone yet that has a cooler with headers except Pissinuoff. I hear he has a top shelf set up with the 8AN fittings. If anyone has done 10AN with headers and the stock filter location it would be great to hear from you.

Gotta revive this one because we are dealing with this first hand at the shop now.

Any updates on this, what's the difinitive answer for the cooler setup WITH Kooks headers ???
If I'm reading all the threads correctly: Either a Remote Filter adapter or PISSNUOFF's setup which consists of an adapter plate with -8 fittings

Any luck on the TPIs adapter and Kooks working ?
PISSNUOFF chime in with details and part numbers please ?

I've got no problems with the cooler or the lines, just need the adapter or a sandwich adapter that will work with the Kooks...(Canton or Peterson maybe?)

 

[Junior1]

Re: Need help with oil cooler

Thanks Mike, the guys from the shop talked about that one from Improved Racing yesterday. Might just give some of these a shot to see what works
I guess if I go to a dry sump setup this would be a moot point...

 

[Junior1]

Re: Need help with oil cooler

Thanks Pat.
Did you try any sandwich type adapters such as Canton Racing or Peterson ???
https://www.cantonracingproducts.com/getimage.php?id=22-540

I'm guessing even if the Improved Racing one or maybe a sandwich adapter works, the next problem is routing the lines...

 

[Junior1]

Re: Need help with oil cooler

This is for a chev small/big block not an LS motor..

Try a moroso 23694... http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=21001
This is what i'm using but I do not have headers...yet

I was posting it more for a visual, but thanks for another part number to consider. Canton makes the same adapter as well, Part number 22-546

 

[Junior1]

Re: Need help with oil cooler

Well that just sucks...
So looks like either a remote filter setup or drysump :helpless:

 

[Junior1]

Re: Need help with oil cooler

Mike when you get a chance, can you post up pictures of your setup...

Chances are I am going to go that route. I was at the shop today and they are actually using -12 lines and not -10 so it makes for even more issues.
They are looking to go with a spin on sandwich type with the lines coming straight down out of the plate and then getting routed to a remote filter setup.
All of the previous cars that were built for Powell, Buttermore, etc. used the stock exhaust manifolds because headers were/are illegal in T1 & GS so this never became an issue.
Unless there is another brand of headers with a different design (American Racing, Stainless, etc.) that will allow for more clearance, I don't know and I don't want to buy them all to find out...

 

[Junior1]

Re: Need help with oil cooler

Thank you sir...

 

[Junior1]

Re: Extnal oil and trans coolers

FYI we ran both the tranny and oil coolers up front where the a/c condenser used to mount, (full track car) and ran -12 lines for the oil cooler

 

[Junior1]

Re: Extnal oil and trans coolers

What did you wind up using for an adapter to run the lines from the oil filter Chris? Improved Racing? Your car has headers right?

Yes I'm running Kooks headers on the car. The Improved Racing one was a no go with the -12's. We ended up using an adapter similar to this:

Then we plugged up one side and drilled/retapped a new opening into the side. The lines are now 90 degrees away from each other.
I've been in talks to have them just make up the adapters to make life easier for guys trying to run a cooler with the headers. The old Grand-Am and T2 cars never had the problem because rules dictated them to run stock manifolds...

 

[Junior1]

Re: Extnal oil and trans coolers

Chris do you think the improved racing would work if using smaller -10 fittings with Kooks headers? I was planning to (eventually) go with -10 size.

-Chris

I'm almost certain they had something very similar to the Improved one and no matter how they tried routing the line it ended up too close for their liking. HOWEVER I don't think they ever tried any of them with -10 as the plan was -12 from the start...
You may have to get one and try all sorts of adapters. I got lucky as they had plenty fittings and such around the shop.
Next time I go down, I'll get some detailed pics. I can't see why my setup wouldn't work in a -10

 

[Junior1]

Re: Extnal oil and trans coolers

That's the conclusion I've come to with the TPIS adapter. Although it's a bit bigger than the Improved Racing piece, I think the ports are oriented very similarly. The TPIS part itself clears the Kooks headers just fine, and the Improved one would fit (slightly) better, but I just couldn't find any way to route the lines that wouldn't pass them too close to the headers at one point or another.

Thats exactly what it was...

 

[Junior1]

If you're not going with headers it should be way easier for the line routing as well