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I have a 96 Fletwood Brougham and when I pulled the factory radio to put a aftermarket one in there was no plugs back there. Someone told me the wires to the radio were in the trunk. What the hell? Any suggestions?
 

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Yes, the radio in the dash is essentially a remote, with the main brains in the trunk.

That said, it's really not bad to work around, AND Metra makes a harness EXACTLY for it. I wondered too, and over this past Christmas, used my lack of electronic skills to install the harness and my new Pioneer head unit.

We started a great thread on another forum, but it's down at the moment...I'll post the link momentarily.

Essentially, you just need to get whatever head unit of your choice, and the Metra 70-1856 tuner bypass harness (same here that can be had elsewhere for less):

http://www.installer.com/item/display_item.php?it=70-1856

and you're set. Essentially, all it entails is splicing the harness to the harness on the new head unit, set it all in, and you're done. You just route the harness from the dash to the trunk (perfect length, and I just did mine in the dash, then down along the passenger side floor and into the trunk, then the plugs on that end attach right to the antenna and the large plug originally going into the amp/radio control box back there.

This is by far the easiest and quickest way to do it, plus clean as can be, and a way to guarantee that your RAP (retained accessory power), antenna, chimes, and all else continue to work like OEM. I've known a few people who went into their stereo install uninformed and ended up with a mess, sound issues, and chimes and otherwise that now don't work properly.

Just get the Metra 70-1856 harness, splice it onto your new HU's harness, route to the trunk and...DONE. If I can do it, and have it all perfect, anyone can.




Now, just for that link to be back up...
 

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Thanks a lot caddycruiser! Where did u get that dash kit? Do you have the part number for it also? This all is a big help because it will save me some cash.
 

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i always thought the 96 was different from the other years. this is good to know as i plan on adding an aftermarket hu later this year.
 

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i always thought the 96 was different from the other years. this is good to know as i plan on adding an aftermarket hu later this year.
I thought the same... hmmmm, I will do more research once the SS forum comes back up.
 

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i always thought the 96 was different from the other years. this is good to know as i plan on adding an aftermarket hu later this year.
Some have said that, but I've never seen firm proof--just going by the online parts sources for the wiring harness and such, they list everything for '93-96.

That said, the parts I used are as follows:
Dash mounting kit: Metra 99-2003
Wiring harness: Metra 70-1856

Both are made exactly for this car, even though you'll still find a few in the dark installers who have no idea about them. Just need to double check on the '96 equipment, if it is or is not at all different.
 

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I found the Dash mounting kit: Metra 99-2003 $10 and Wiring harness: Metra 70-1856 ONLY $30 on www.audiooutfitter.com for only $48 for both total including shipping $8. That's a hell of a deal. Just got them in and they're the right parts. Now I'm waiting on my new Pioneer Premier 590I head unit$140 from Ebay, only $164 with shipping$22 and insurance $2. I saved $80 in parts and $200 in labor. Thanks guys!!
 

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This is B.S. I just tried to plug up the Metra 70-1856 Wiring harness and the ends are different. The plug that comes out of the tuner is pink and it won't plug into the black harness.
 

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This is B.S. I just tried to plug up the Metra 70-1856 Wiring harness and the ends are different. The plug that comes out of the tuner is pink and it won't plug into the black harness.
Really? All I did was run the plugged end back to the back, unplugged the big plug from the amp and put it into the end of the harness, then the same for the antenna wire and it was done (aside from splicing the other open end to my Pioneer harness).

Hmm...were there 2 plugs in your dash for the head unit? And still an amp/tuner box mounted on the passenger's side of the trunk near the antenna with a big plug going into it?
 

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Yes, I have the two plugs behind the radio and the amp/tuner in the trunk. BUT, my tuner isn't by the antenna its mounted to the back of the trunk behind the seats on the driver's side. I have uploaded pictures. Please help!!!
 

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Well I disconnected the two plugs at the amp/tuner in the trunk and turned the key and the car wouldn't start, but the radio came on an was playing as usual. I hooked everything back up and went back to the dash. The antenna adapter caomes out of the dash like there isn't even a tuner in the car. If there was a tuner how did the radio still play when I disconnected the two plugs???????? The two plugs in the dash won't fit the 70-1856 harness. I went to 4 different shops and neither had a harness for the plugs in the dash or the amp/tuner in the trunk. They said that I have to run all new wires. That's ridiculous. Now I'm stuck with this 70-1856 harness and they want $100 to run new wires. I'm about to say f**k it!
 

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Yeah, that's really bizarre and I guess the '96 does have a difference then. For all the other ones that have been done, it's just unplugging a big white plug from the trunk amp and then plugging it back in the harness like this:



but that's something that doesn't look possible here, with the difference.

That said, I now know there are differences with the '96 despite what was never confirmed. There are people who have put an aftermarket unit in a '96 without much of a problem, and from what I remember, he just did his own wiring.

Really a pain, I know, given how we thought this would be as easy of a swap as with other '93-95 models, but you might want to post over on the Impala SS forum Fleetwood thread to see what they can tell you. Good people here, but a lot more active with the '93-96 models over there, and a lot more owners who enjoy hacking into their cars.
 

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Not sure if I'm seeing things correctly or not...but did you already try just pulling that one blue plug from the larger pink plug on the amp and connecting that? Or is that just not possible/not a match?
 

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Shucks...then the '96 must be a dicey model then. I knew the unit in the dash was different, but had never heard any concrete information on the whole wiring and such being unique, so I assumed it wasn't.

What a pain, especially now that you've bought those pieces and not had them workable. Really don't know what to tell you now, and am hoping someone over on the ISSF board can give some information if you've posted yet.

http://impalassforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=35;DaysPrune=365
 

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I lost my pasword and username over there, so I had to re-register and I can't post until the administrator approves. I registerded last night, I don't know how long the administrator is going to take to approve.
 

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I just looked up the numbers on the box I found in the trunk and I got this site http://www.rmsautoparts.com/a_partnumbers.php It says the the Service Number I got of the box is this: 16197386 - Body Control Module. Look at post # 13 on the picture you se the servive number on the box. If its a Body Control Module how could it be a tuner? Maybe the 96s don't have a tuner/amp?
 
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