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90 Brougham right speaker noise

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The right speaker keeps having intermittent noise like crackling. It doesn't appear to be the speaker itself. It's not the radio head because I bought a replacement and tried it and I got the same noise.

The service manual diagram shows a radio chassis that is separate from the radio head. Radio head meaning the tuner, and cassette player unit.

My parts catalog shows radio's in section 21 however there is no such section that I see. I don't know if there is a separate parts catalog for audio. I have not seen anything like that listed on eBay.

I believe the source of the noise is the chassis. I searched eBay and nothing came up. I am baffled where to find out more about the audio.
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Ready for a multi-part, multi-link, answer?

So yes, as you've probably guessed from the manual, the "radio" that you see in the dashboard isn't a radio at all. It's a control head with buttons and a display. And a cassette or maybe CD player. The tuner and amplifier are housed in a separate unit mounted under the dash. And yes, if your speakers and speaker wires are good, but one side doesn't work, the problem is probably in that main unit. (By the way, is it BOTH right speakers, front and rear? If so, that's even more of a sign that it's not the speakers themselves.)

Post #7 here describes in text how to remove it.
https://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/rwd-19xx-1984-deville-fleetwood-1985/199758-where-tuner-box-1992-brougham.html

In this YouTube video, the man making the video half-correctly describes the unit as an "amp." It does have an amplifier inside there, so fair enough. Anyway, he has already removed the unit from his car (because he's installing an aftermarket radio), but you'll get to see what it looks like, as well as a view of the connectors. Worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNLFrvvGdoM

This two-box setup was not something GM commonly used, but they did use the same approach in a few other cars. Most notably the '88-94 pickups. Here's a detailed post of someone repairing the problem in his Buick Reatta. Should be very similar to what you have.
http://www.reattaowner.com/roj/88-accessories/radio/198-radio-capacitor-replacement-instructions
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Thanks Chris.

I got some time to sit down yesterday evening and read the service manual area. Crazy how they name the darn thing by several names. Chassis, receiver, etc. Actually it appears to be a receiver and amplifier all in one unit. I'm like WTF couldn't GM incorporate that into the control head aka what I call the radio. Why complicate things. Let me guess an engineer designed this.

The service manual talks about using a Tech I to pin point the problem but I don't have that. It also mentions possibly the antenna is the cause but what I have found is that the noise is still there using a cassette tape too. So it is probably the "thing" buried in the dash. Oh boy what fun that's going to be getting to that.

An eBay search finally turned up a few used units and they aren't cheap by any means. About as expensive as those blower motor resisters. I haven't explored finding replacements by a seller on the internet. I sure hope there are.
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BTW the service manual describe how to get to the "thing" from under the dash and not from the top.

Interesting that it is the capacitors that are the popping noise source. I have de-soldered a circuit board for my rear projection TV before to replace an opto coupler. Hahaha with no experience doing it. I was a bit apprehensive attempting it but I was able to do it. The second time the board gave me a problem a few years later I finally searched for a new one and tossed the old one. I couldn't find the source of the second problem.
Well I got to the radio chassis. Whew what a total PITA. The engineer who decided to bury that should be executed. It came out but I bet it will be a real PITA to get back in. Part number 1608320.

I found one website that will fix them. http://www.mnrelectronics.com/
I emailed them and asked if they still repair them. I was a bit reluctant to buy one off of eBay. I would be afraid that it wouldn't work.
Time to come to the 21st century and put a real radio in it. Your ears will thank you anyway. Save the stock junk if anyone wants to keep it "original" - but it's crap.
Time to come to the 21st century and put a real radio in it. Your ears will thank you anyway. Save the stock junk if anyone wants to keep it "original" - but it's crap.
Sometimes you have to be careful about doing that. Yesterday I was looking for a part number for another thread and the wiper relay was somehow tied to the Bose system. Plus I don't want to mess around with cutting wires and such. One turn off for me when I was looking for a Brougham was when I saw someone had modified/changed the OEM radio. It's hard to tell what someone else has done behind the dash.

When I was looking for a good used diesel truck when I saw one that had been modified with a tuner for engine emissions bypass I just walked away from them. Nah, don't want to piss around with the unknown what someone else did.

The place I contacted can also add a aux input to the OEM radio head for an MP3 player, etc. Good enough for me.
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To each his own. Haven't kept a car with a stock radio since I started driving except for my Lexus LS400. Everything else has had awful audio. Not that difficult to run your own new wiring to the back for an amp.
To each his own. Haven't kept a car with a stock radio since I started driving except for my Lexus LS400. Everything else has had awful audio. Not that difficult to run your own new wiring to the back for an amp.
I probably would but I can't find a good 8-track player unit. LOL I won't be driving this car much otherwise I might consider it.
A while back I went to go install an aftermarket CD player in my 1990 Brougham and found out about the component stuffed behind the dashboard.

I had a stereo shop take over, they extended the wire harness up to the new CD player. They did so with out cutting up the factory wiring.
FYI M & R Electronics fixed the chassis unit and added an input aux jack that I can use for an MP3 player.

They gave me several options for the aux jack. One was to use the cassette player or add it to the chassis. My chassis has a pig tail connection. I thought they told me they could add it to the radio face plate but that would have cost more.

Yesterday I connected everything and tried it and sure enough it worked. The noise is gone. They told me they change several capacitors and some other components that leak or can leak on the circuit board. I am satisfied with the work.

Now comes the fun part... getting the chassis back into the dash. Why the **** GM didn't put that in a much more accessible place is beyond me. Oh I'm sure service people cussed every time they had to remove and put one in.

I had a small white box fall down behind the dash with two holes I presume for mounting when I removed the chassis. For the life of me I don't see where it could have possibly fastened to. Maybe it was just laying up inside the dash since the car was made.
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The part number 1620783 confirms it is an anti-theft relay. Good gawd I wonder where that attaches if it ever did.

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Just another rant but why the **** can't they make wires a bit longer on connections. Good grief you'd think there was a copper shortage. It sure would make it easier to put everything back in place.
A while back I went to go install an aftermarket CD player in my 1990 Brougham and found out about the component stuffed behind the dashboard.

I had a stereo shop take over, they extended the wire harness up to the new CD player. They did so with out cutting up the factory wiring.
Can you tell me roughly what they charged to do that? The stereo in my '90 was acting funky for a while and as soon as the cold weather hit the sound disappeared completely. I have a stereo I'd like to put in but I do want to keep all the original wiring intact. I went by one place last week and the guy acted like he wanted nothing to do with working on it.
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