thanks csbucking. you may be right on the timing, i wasn't there when he timed it. and it started better cold before he timed it. i think it timed at 38 degrees before tdc, as on the engine info under the hood. the guy is good at certain things but he sometimes screws up technical stuff. as far as the secondaries i was running it on the road to test them and they will kick in but not right, maybe the timing being off could screw that up too