I agree and don't expect this to happen. If it was 100% safe it wouldn't be an issue to offer a guarantee and at no additional cost. Basically the risk adds to the money they would need up front, no different than any insurance policy.^^^ I don't see that happening w/o the tuner jacking up the price of the tune by $50 or $100 to cover its risk. It's too unpredictable to know what GM will do and some other customer mod (e.g., downpipe) could cause GM to actively look for the tune.
I do agree that some tuners promote their tune in such a way as to imply its 100% safe and should be more more cautious in their wording given they do not offer a money back guarantee if the tune is detected.
I'm surprised that GM has not gotten more aggressive about using alternative methods for tune detection on performance cars.
Exactly. If legality was the be all and end all, nobody would get t-boned by someone running a stop sign or mugged walking thru a bad part of town with hundred dollar bills hanging from every pocket. Or get stuck when a dealer makes a mistake on a warranty call or just doesn't like you.The "they have to prove it" really sounds much easier on a forum than it would be in real life. You take your car in for warranty work, they deny it, you tell them to prove it, they say "no thanks" and your options become pretty difficult and possibly expensive.
But does GM pay the dealership remotely close to the same hourly rate that the dealership would charge a customer?When a dealership does warranty repairs, it doesn't come out of their pockets.. They are glad to give their mechanics the work.. The cost will be reimbursed by the manufacture..
Now if the manufacture wants the dealer to explain to them, why X part broke.. That is another question..
Depends on the definition of "remotely". They definetly should pay considerably less. Since most people don't go to a dealer for non-warranty work, GM is certainly footing the bill for most of the work they do. High volume gets better prices. Plus I'll bet all of GM's checks clear.But does GM pay the dealership remotely close to the same hourly rate that the dealership would charge a customer?