[996]

Hi All -

First post here. We have a 2010 Cadillac Escalade as the title states. It seems as though the suspension has gotten way worse in the last year or two. It is super bumpy and bouncy especially if sitting in the rear, but can be felt all over the car. We went over a bump on the freeway recently and the car felt completely unstable.

I have read that this may be the magneride suspension going bad... How can I trouble shoot this? If one must replace all 4 magneride shocks, how much will this run me? Can a regular shop do it in stead of the dealer?

Also is it possible to drop magenride all together and put standard shocks on the car?

Thanks a bunch in advance. I have heard that his problem is common.

 

[007matman]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

It is pretty common.

All are options. The OE shocks/Struts are around $250 each on Amazon. If you can do it yourself you'd probably be around $1100 for all four (maybe a little more depending on where you can find it at).

Replacing with non-magnaride shocks is an option too and quite a bit cheaper. You run the risk of a slightly different ride though with that. You'll need resistors to avoid the "Service Suspension" code.

I really have good luck with Arnott if you're going the non-magnaride route.

If you're really noticing it from the rear I might just start with those and see how that improves the ride.

Someone else may speak up about troubleshooting..

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[Smrtss1]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

Front is magnetic ride, rear is air shocks and if you have more than 50-60k chances are you need to replace everything. Check front for leaks on the strut, check rears for tear in the boots. If it’s riding stiff like you say it’s the shocks (mine did the same) and yes you can replace everything with passive struts or you can replace fronts with passive and rears with air ride. If you replace everything with standard struts you’ll throw a code and have a suspension light come on the dash which can be bypassed with wiring in a resistor, just google your year and type in “suspension bypass” or “suspension resistor” (on Amazon and ebay as well). The dash warning gets irritating after a while.
I replaced everything with new gear from Arnott Industries, fronts I did a full assembly with spring and rear is just a replacement air strut. I couldn’t justify the extra cost for mag-ride struts when they go out in 50k miles



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[007matman]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

Not to argue but I'm pretty sure the rear is air shocks plus magnaride.

The part numbers are different for the non-magnaride air shocks system (Z55 I think)

If you have the Z95 package, the rear shocks have an electrical connection that allows the magnaride (otherwise, it would just have the compressor connection fitting).

Here is the rear.

ACDelco 580-1091 GM Original Equipment Rear Air Lift Shock Absorber Kit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014RFETY6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vFR4Cb8PWGBJ4

Here are the fronts (unloaded)

ACDelco 580-435 GM Original Equipment Front Shock Absorber https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EDQ14DE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NJR4CbCB7YFCR


I have a '10 Esky Premium Luxury. Rears are a piece of cake. I have not done the fronts yet (they were new when we purchased the truck).

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[996]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

007matman - Thank you for your reply. So you sent both OE front and rear shocks in your link? Magneride front and air rear (or air+magneride rear)?

Smrtss1 - I'll do some preliminary checks to see what is going on. We will most probably replace the whole system. How is your ride without the front magneride suspension? We are still on the OEM 22's. Also, is there a way to diagnose the actual air compressor?

Thanks all.

 

[Smrtss1]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

Hard to tell the difference in the ride since my struts were wasted when I bought mine and it rode like a bulldozer. It got significantly better after I replaced everything even with lowering the rear to level it out.


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[Smrtss1]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

Rears are not mag-ride. Electrical connection is for the BCM and compressor. Still has to be bypassed if running passive struts.


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[007matman]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

007matman - Thank you for your reply. So you sent both OE front and rear shocks in your link? Magneride front and air rear (or air+magneride rear)?

Smrtss1 - I'll do some preliminary checks to see what is going on. We will most probably replace the whole system. How is your ride without the front magneride suspension? We are still on the OEM 22's. Also, is there a way to diagnose the actual air compressor?

Thanks all.

Yes. I went with these. I did use Arnott shocks on my Denali. Very happy with both.

I wanted to keep it OEM. I've heard of people complaining of rough ride and 22's without it. I figured 50k is too short. However, if I do it myself it's cheaper than someone else doing it with bypassed system.

It's really a personal choice. I figured if I was to buy one and find out the PO had bypassed the system I'd be mad.

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[007matman]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

Rears are not mag-ride. Electrical connection is for the BCM and compressor. Still has to be bypassed if running passive struts.


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So, if that is true why is the part number different?

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[Smrtss1]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

So, if that is true why is the part number different?

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Suburban, EXT?
Police package?
Z71 package?

Gm changes part numbers based on nothing but build date or because they changed manufacturers. I think they do it because they secretly hate parts people.


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[007matman]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

Suburban, EXT?
Police package?
Z71 package?

Gm changes part numbers based on nothing but build date or because they changed manufacturers. I think they do it because they secretly hate parts people.


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The subject is Escalade.

There are two packages.. Z55 and Z95 RPO codes.

This is what I understand..

If you have the 18" wheels, you likely have the Z55 package which includes what used to be called "Autoride" self-leveling (aka Air Ride) suspension. The 18" wheels have taller tires and in most cases the magnaride isn't really needed. In looking up a few articles it appears that the fronts are magnetically controlled (not the rear). So, your statement that the rear for this model is not magnaride would be correct.

If you have the 22" wheels you likely have Magnaride Z95. GM did have an option early on to get the vehicle without magnaride but I believe by 2010 it was standard. They did this because customer complaints of a stiff ride (not enough sidewall). The articles I see indicate that the rear is magnetically controlled too.

The part numbers are unique. This difference would explain the different part numbers for the rear on the two packages.

There were many different options on these trucks and who knows what happened after the vehicle left the factory. Check the RPO code in your glovebox to confirm which package you have. It's not uncommon for a truck to get 22" wheels by the dealer as a dealer installed option.

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[Smrtss1]

I have a ‘12 Premium with Z95 code and 22” wheels. It DID NOT come with mag-ride rears.

None of them came with electronically controlled magnetic ride rear struts. The electronics for the rear are for the strut to communicate with the BCM to control the compressor to fill or deflate the rear struts.

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[Smrtss1]

Let me ask you this. Why do you need electronically controlled magnetic fluid in an air filled strut? You don’t.


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[007matman]

Let me ask you this. Why do you need electronically controlled magnetic fluid in an air filled strut? You don’t.


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Struts are on the front.. they are not air-filled.

If you're talking about the Auto-ride shock, it's basically a conventional shock (oil-filled) with an air bladder "helper" spring built in that assists with leveling the ride.

Magnaride uses magnets to automatically adjust the shock dampening based off of road conditions (via sensors). The system is capable of a crazy number of adjustments per second.

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[Smrtss1]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

Not to argue but I'm pretty sure the rear is air shocks plus magnaride.


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5 hours later and you’re still arguing.
Rear is NOT MAGNARIDE. That is from 2 GM parts people, the parts manager, a service advisor and a service director. Plus days of searching online before I bought new rear struts a year and a half ago.
Front struts are mag-ride
Rears ARE NOT.



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[007matman]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

5 hours later and you’re still arguing.
Rear is NOT MAGNARIDE. That is from 2 GM parts people, the parts manager, a service advisor and a service director. Plus days of searching online before I bought new rear struts a year and a half ago.
Front struts are mag-ride
Rears ARE NOT.



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I didn’t know asking questions was arguing. I’d still like someone to explain the different part numbers and the fact that the description calls out magnaride on those shocks.




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[rockstars1989]

Re: 2010 Cadillac Escalade - Very Rough Bouncy Ride - Solutions?

I have owned 5 Platinum Escalades and I have rebuilt all of the drive trains on them This statement is correct. Just sayin... Nick

5 hours later and you’re still arguing.
Rear is NOT MAGNARIDE. That is from 2 GM parts people, the parts manager, a service advisor and a service director. Plus days of searching online before I bought new rear struts a year and a half ago.
Front struts are mag-ride
Rears ARE NOT.



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[007matman]

Regardless of all this.

To the OP.. just make sure to order the correct ones as they are supposedly different although nobody can explain it.

Just need to take the experts at their word I guess..

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[jtuomainen]

Anyway, there is different shocks for cars with MRC and those rear shocks have both air leveling connector and another for MRC. I believe gm #23487280 is what you are looking.

 

[Phoenixx]

Hi All -

First post here. We have a 2010 Cadillac Escalade as the title states. It seems as though the suspension has gotten way worse in the last year or two. It is super bumpy and bouncy especially if sitting in the rear, but can be felt all over the car. We went over a bump on the freeway recently and the car felt completely unstable.

I have read that this may be the magneride suspension going bad... How can I trouble shoot this? If one must replace all 4 magneride shocks, how much will this run me? Can a regular shop do it in stead of the dealer?

Also is it possible to drop magenride all together and put standard shocks on the car?

Thanks a bunch in advance. I have heard that his problem is common.

Post your VIN and I will let you know the part numbers.