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2009 cts how to disable passive lock system

13K views 16 replies 8 participants last post by  ccclarke  
#1 ·
need help disabling passive lock system,it is driving me crazy every time I shut the drivers door the lights flash horn blows and doors lock.hate this please help my name is ken.
 
#11 · (Edited)
XLR debuted the flush door handle/electronic door switches first, in 2004. It's a simple, reliable system, and there hasn't been much of a change in its operation since XLR production stopped in 2009.

When the door latches fail to operate properly, it's usually the driver or passenger interior or exterior switches, followed by the applicable door module. In the case of the XLR, there is no mechanical linkage that moves up and down to indicate door lock position. XLR uses an LED Door Lock Indicator that flashes to indicate status on the window sill.

There is a door latch, activated by the switches from the respective door module. It's electro-mechanical vice electro-magnetic. It doesn't make a loud, mechanical sound like a typical automotive solenoid, but quietly "thumps" --due to a very short throw, as it unlatches, as described above. The trunk latch is much louder, using a longer-throw solenoid to disengage the latch.

For this problem, since it's rare for the interior or exterior switch to simultaneously fail, the latch is suspect, followed by the door module. But . . . If a switch is shorted, it can send a continuous signal to the door module, preventing normal operation. Membrane switches usually fail open, but anything is possible.

It takes just a little longer to connect the scan tool than it does to troubleshoot the problem with it. A two-minute scan at a dealership will check all of these conditions. After it's diagnosed, you could order the part yourself (online, paying what the dealer pays) and perform the repair yourself, buying a nice set of indispensible trim tools with the money you save.

CCC
 
#8 ·
I just can't imagine lock without mechanical parts (except electromagnetic). Electronic can be driver but not lock itself (if I am wrong please send me a link where I can learn about it). I can believe in very quiet mechanism, so someone could not hear it while lock/unlock.
 
#9 ·
There is absolutely no sound when the doors lock, when you lock the doors inside using the button, you get an electronic beep, but there is no mechanical sound at all. Every single car in my life that I have owned or ridden in, you can hear the mechanism when locking, some louder than others. Nothing in the V-coupe.

When in my garage with the overhead door closed, absolutely quiet. Exit the car and after a few seconds, the lights flash and not a sound.

My speculation is this....

Remember that like the Corvette, on the V-coupe (and non-v) the mechanism that releases the doors are essentially poppers. From the interior you press the button and the door "pops" open. From the exterior you press the touchpad and the door "pops" open. My speculation is that when the doors are "locked" the interior button and the exterior touch pads are disabled (turned off) and the doors are essentially locked.

I'm searching to see if I can find a technical explanation...
 
#14 ·
Your doors have a electrically-operated mechanical latch for crash safety reasons. When it unlocks, the door moves outward slightly. It may be nearly impossible to hear, but it's there, inside the frame (not the door.) The latch is also enabled with a back-up mechanical release handle to open it, just like the XLR should there be a loss of power.

CCC
 
#15 ·
There is a difference between opening the doors and locking/unlocking them.

When the touch pad on the outside of the door or release button on the inside, or the lever beside the driver/passenger seat is used, the door "pops" open. This action can be seen and heard.

When the door is locked or unlocked there is zero sound, period.
 
#16 ·
vfaninva said:
There is a difference between opening the doors and locking/unlocking them. When the touch pad on the outside of the door or release button on the inside, or the lever beside the driver/passenger seat is used, the door "pops" open. This action can be seen and heard. When the door is locked or unlocked there is zero sound, period.
That's what I'm sayin'.