Please, any recommendations on where to find front shocks for the sport suspension option? Part No. 22064782 and 22064783. These are the front, left and right. I have given up trying to find the rear air adjustables. Thanks much in advance for your time!
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you'll NEVER find front SHOCKS for your 2005 Deville DTS -
HOWEVER -
rockauto.com DOES have front STRUTS available -
around $665 for the pair - including shipping -
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NOTE - it is NOT a good idea to mix the F45 - electronic front struts
with non-electronic rear shocks - it will result in VERY unstable handling between the front and rear -
since the rear SHOCKS for the DTS just aren't available anywhere -
I would highly recommend swapping the F45 front STRUTS and rear SHOCKS to the non-electronic units -
FRONT STRUTS -
MONROE 171685 - these are the fully assembled "quick strut" assembly - using ALL new components -
$186 - for the PAIR - with free shipping -
REAR SHOCKS -
MONROE MA822 - $73 - for the PAIR - with free shipping -
also from amazon -
you'll also need a 4-pack of 4.7K ohm resistors to "fool" the suspension computer -
$2.60 for a 10-pack - with free shipping -
you'll NEVER find front SHOCKS for your 2005 Deville DTS -
HOWEVER -
rockauto.com DOES have front STRUTS available -
around $665 for the pair - including shipping -
-----------------------------------
NOTE - it is NOT a good idea to mix the F45 - electronic front struts
with non-electronic rear shocks - it will result in VERY unstable handling between the front and rear -
since the rear SHOCKS for the DTS just aren't available anywhere -
I would highly recommend swapping the F45 front STRUTS and rear SHOCKS to the non-electronic units -
FRONT STRUTS -
MONROE 171685 - these are the fully assembled "quick strut" assembly - using ALL new components -
$186 - for the PAIR - with free shipping -
Amazon.com: Monroe Shocks & Struts Quick-Strut 171685 Strut and Coil Spring Assembly : Automotive
Buy Monroe Shocks & Struts Quick-Strut 171685 Strut and Coil Spring Assembly: Struts - Amazon.com âś“ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
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REAR SHOCKS -
MONROE MA822 - $73 - for the PAIR - with free shipping -
also from amazon -
you'll also need a 4-pack of 4.7K ohm resistors to "fool" the suspension computer -
$2.60 for a 10-pack - with free shipping -
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Now that is what I call a reply! Thank you, you inform as well as advise!=======================
you'll NEVER find front SHOCKS for your 2005 Deville DTS -
HOWEVER -
rockauto.com DOES have front STRUTS available -
around $665 for the pair - including shipping -
-----------------------------------
NOTE - it is NOT a good idea to mix the F45 - electronic front struts
with non-electronic rear shocks - it will result in VERY unstable handling between the front and rear -
since the rear SHOCKS for the DTS just aren't available anywhere -
I would highly recommend swapping the F45 front STRUTS and rear SHOCKS to the non-electronic units -
FRONT STRUTS -
MONROE 171685 - these are the fully assembled "quick strut" assembly - using ALL new components -
$186 - for the PAIR - with free shipping -
Amazon.com: Monroe Shocks & Struts Quick-Strut 171685 Strut and Coil Spring Assembly : Automotive
Buy Monroe Shocks & Struts Quick-Strut 171685 Strut and Coil Spring Assembly: Struts - Amazon.com âś“ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchaseswww.amazon.com
REAR SHOCKS -
MONROE MA822 - $73 - for the PAIR - with free shipping -
also from amazon -
you'll also need a 4-pack of 4.7K ohm resistors to "fool" the suspension computer -
$2.60 for a 10-pack - with free shipping -
10 PCS 1/2 w(0.5 watt) 1% metal film resistors Over 200 Various Value YOU CHOOSE | eBay
High Precision Resistors. Quantity: 10 Pieces. Tolerance: 1%. Power (watts): 0.5W (1/2W).www.ebay.com
Good afternoon! I have a 96 sedan devile i changed my rear air suspension to coil over struts and I absolutely love them! It rides better than the air shocks did, so I went to strut master.com i need yo replace my front ones and they come with resisters to turn off the service ride control light, $400 for front coil over conversion and $100 to ship it
You did not have "rear air suspension", you had the stock Electronic Level Control that compensates for weight changes in the rear seat and trunk. It uses height sensors and a compressor to vary rear end height, not stiffness.
Depending on the trim level of your 1996 you had either passive suspension (FE1) or active suspension (FE3 F45) with active struts and shocks - and BOTH systems use the ELC which is NOT a suspension stiffness control function. Rear coilovers are probably the worst choice you could have made. If you needed to install the resistors at the shocks and struts then you had the active F45 sport suspension.
You paid well over 750% for the resistors - see Post #2. The rebuilt Strutmasters and Arnott parts are a bit pricey. Their resistors are highway robbery, available anywhere for about 25 to 30 cents each.
Depending on the trim level of your 1996 you had either passive suspension (FE1) or active suspension (FE3 F45) with active struts and shocks - and BOTH systems use the ELC which is NOT a suspension stiffness control function. Rear coilovers are probably the worst choice you could have made. If you needed to install the resistors at the shocks and struts then you had the active F45 sport suspension.
You paid well over 750% for the resistors - see Post #2. The rebuilt Strutmasters and Arnott parts are a bit pricey. Their resistors are highway robbery, available anywhere for about 25 to 30 cents each.
forgive me for my vocabulary of saying air suspension, they were air shocks on the back and coil over conversion kit made it ride better than air ever did. We took the car from GA to Maine with a couple hundred pounds of luggage in the truck and it never bottomed out, and I’m not just replacing the struts on the front I’m replacing the coil springs too. If that makes me an idiot so be it. Because i guess your products are above no other
EDIT: No one is calling you an "idiot". The different suspension systems on these Cadillac vehicles are the subject of much incorrect info and guessing. We see the incorrect repairs and fudges every day in here, Seville, and Eldorado. You're not alone.
The car does and did NOT have any form of "air suspension". The shocks incorporate air bladders for rear height control due to weight changes in the rear seat or trunk. The "air" has nothing to do with suspension stiffness or control. Not on the original shocks and not on any replacement shock.
Our cars use standard coil springs (two calibrations, depending on trim level) and hydraulic struts and shocks (passive or active, depending on trim level) for suspension and control, and shock auxiliary air bladders, height sensors, air lines, and a compressor with supply/vent head to compensate for weight changes in the rear.
The car does and did NOT have any form of "air suspension". The shocks incorporate air bladders for rear height control due to weight changes in the rear seat or trunk. The "air" has nothing to do with suspension stiffness or control. Not on the original shocks and not on any replacement shock.
Our cars use standard coil springs (two calibrations, depending on trim level) and hydraulic struts and shocks (passive or active, depending on trim level) for suspension and control, and shock auxiliary air bladders, height sensors, air lines, and a compressor with supply/vent head to compensate for weight changes in the rear.
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Buy the front struts from Arnott or a few others along with the "module/plug" gadget (to shut off any SES or service strut messages and SURE if you are a tech wizard a couple 2 cent resistors if you do it yourself).
The REAR...........Just replace the factory air shocks with some aftermarket units.
Just bolt on and rig up the factory air lines with a 2 cent 3 way tee.
Some units come with new lines and such.
Been there done that..........
NOW if you cant do it yourself. You know what to ask of your mechanic.
The REAR...........Just replace the factory air shocks with some aftermarket units.
Just bolt on and rig up the factory air lines with a 2 cent 3 way tee.
Some units come with new lines and such.
Been there done that..........
NOW if you cant do it yourself. You know what to ask of your mechanic.
The electrical connectors are on different sides of each strut/shock.
No, they are filled with hydraulic fluid and factory sealed.
No, they are filled with hydraulic fluid and factory sealed.
So now with your new front shocks you will have Passive suspension.
Did the shocks come with the resistors/plug in deal to shut of the SES
or service suspension messages?
The Arnott passive replacements have them..........
What about the rear?
Did the shocks come with the resistors/plug in deal to shut of the SES
or service suspension messages?
The Arnott passive replacements have them..........
What about the rear?
Yea yea....you so called experts bust in chops just because somebody disagrees with your so called expert opinion and lame advise or buying a brand YOU don't like. You sure don't help much. But you DO love to talk down to folks to boot!
Bass isn't a "so-called" expert. He is a real expert. So is Sub. This site is populated by a bunch of gear heads with decades of experience. You shouldn't come here and give opinions and then expect not to be challenged. You gave bad/wrong advice and got called on it. Grow a thicker skin, then be sure of your advice when you give it. If you get all butt hurt and offended by comments, this probably isn't the site for you.
yea yea....you so called experts bust in chops...........
You really need to go back and read the entire thread again to get back on track.
No one's "busting your chops". The OP has an active suspension F45 car and is installing active OEM F45 struts (not shocks). No resistors involved.
Arnott refurbishes many suspension parts from pullouts, and their $35 or so bypass resistors are nothing more than a 5 cent resistor in a cutesy box with connector - any decent wrencher can do the bypass in-house (only necessary due to a change to passive parts) for each strut/shock in 5 minutes - been there, done that. You need to know which system you're working on because electrical values and mechanical procedures differ, but it's all driveway-doable with care.
You really need to go back and read the entire thread again to get back on track.
No one's "busting your chops". The OP has an active suspension F45 car and is installing active OEM F45 struts (not shocks). No resistors involved.
Arnott refurbishes many suspension parts from pullouts, and their $35 or so bypass resistors are nothing more than a 5 cent resistor in a cutesy box with connector - any decent wrencher can do the bypass in-house (only necessary due to a change to passive parts) for each strut/shock in 5 minutes - been there, done that. You need to know which system you're working on because electrical values and mechanical procedures differ, but it's all driveway-doable with care.
Yea yea.....your the same guy who rode me with your post "QUOTE=Submariner409 No need to clutter up the forums with excessive stickies for 28 year old cars. QUOTE".
I see NO ill effects going to a passive strut and brand x air shocks in my 96 Deville or soon in my 93deville either. As the OP has NO choice and cant find the UNICORN OE front struts OR rear "air shocks"
(or whatever you grinders wanna call them and grind the confused OP to death).
Been here since 2003 and see the SAME couple of "experts" grind and belittle new posters over and over so they are never seen again....................
And heavens DONT suggest a brand/part the "experts" dont like or they get their panties in a wad and belittle and grind harder.................
You Ladies need to lighten up a lot!
I see NO ill effects going to a passive strut and brand x air shocks in my 96 Deville or soon in my 93deville either. As the OP has NO choice and cant find the UNICORN OE front struts OR rear "air shocks"
(or whatever you grinders wanna call them and grind the confused OP to death).
Been here since 2003 and see the SAME couple of "experts" grind and belittle new posters over and over so they are never seen again....................
And heavens DONT suggest a brand/part the "experts" dont like or they get their panties in a wad and belittle and grind harder.................
You Ladies need to lighten up a lot!
He's entitled to his own opinions - correct or incorrect. If he feels "belittled" or "ground" then one could assume he's playing a victim card.
Let's not forget that this thread is working on two very different FWD Devilles due to an unnoticed thread hijack in Post #4. Please keep the advice for each vehicle in context and on target.
bass owned and ran his own brake, suspension, and frame shop. To beat my own drum, in addition to being an engine mechanic off and on since 1954 (among other careers) I recently sold a lucrative marine engine repair and maintenance business as well as worked for 9 years part-time at the parts and service counter at our local Western (Tire &) Auto so I have some foggy idea of where and how to track down parts.(Yes, I did a 30 year Navy career, too,) I have owned and maintained my STS since 11/2005 as well as service and maintain several other FWD Northstar vehicles locally. (As with any other internet info, that blurb and $1.50 will buy you a draft at your local gin mill during Friday Happy Hour.)
Let's not forget that this thread is working on two very different FWD Devilles due to an unnoticed thread hijack in Post #4. Please keep the advice for each vehicle in context and on target.
bass owned and ran his own brake, suspension, and frame shop. To beat my own drum, in addition to being an engine mechanic off and on since 1954 (among other careers) I recently sold a lucrative marine engine repair and maintenance business as well as worked for 9 years part-time at the parts and service counter at our local Western (Tire &) Auto so I have some foggy idea of where and how to track down parts.(Yes, I did a 30 year Navy career, too,) I have owned and maintained my STS since 11/2005 as well as service and maintain several other FWD Northstar vehicles locally. (As with any other internet info, that blurb and $1.50 will buy you a draft at your local gin mill during Friday Happy Hour.)
I want to thank all who posted on this. @basscatt @Submariner409 especially. I got them installed today, and I can't believe the change! It's like a new car! Suddenly, a very nice old sedan became a new car! My dad would be proud, Colonel Vickrey, USAF.
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