[Mahalaleel]

Warning: Not a kill story.

This may be a race in the making, due to my jack-assery in class today, lol.

The teacher wanted someone to pick up his kid (weird I know), and somehow he got to asking the volunteers what kind of cars they drove. Some chick was like "geo", I snickered a little, and the next guy sat up straight, smiled, and said "A 2004 Hyundai Tiburon GT"

and I said a little loudly "*cough* RICE *cough*" to piss him off... It worked, and without inquiring as to what I drive, he said, "It'll kick your car's ass!"

Should I bring the M3....? :lildevil:

Well, later he asked what I'm driving to school, and I told him Deville, and he looked confused, but didn't talk any more crap.

Could I take him? I don't know if he's got the six speed or not, I assume it's at least manual. I also assume he's done nothing to it, he doesn't seem smart enough.

Should I set up a race, even if it's just to show him that the Caddy's worth a little respect?
Or bring a bimmer, and kick his ass so hard he lands in Korea...?

 

[ShadowLvr400]

What yr Deville? If it's like a 97 Deville Concourse, and he can drive the tib, you might lose. (Tib is listed at a 15.3 1/4 vs the 97's 15.5...) Though the magazines often show the N* caddies as slower than they are, I've seen plenty at 15 even...

 

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

If you bring the M3, then you will surprise him, earn his respect, and kick his ass so hard it ends up in the Hyundai plant in Korea. Plus, if you bring the Caddy and lose, then he'll go bragging to his friends he beat a Caddy. That is if he loses.

 

[Mahalaleel]

1992 deville 4.9. Stand no chance if he can drive? I don't mind losing to him, but what would be the best scenario? Roll? Dig?

The bimmer it would be no fun, besides driving the bimmer...he'd get the stomping of a life. Pretty car though, mm estoril blue 4 door

 

[davesdeville]

If we were talking Northstar Deville it would be different but unfortunately he'll take any 4.9 unless it's in a Fiero or Illuminas car.

Your best shot would be from a dig. You've got the torque, he's got the revs.

I say sneak in a 75 shot on that 4.9 before the race and give him something to really wonder about...

 

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

yeah I wouldnt try this with my '92 Deville

The Tiburon should get to 60 about a second faster than you will
and it's 1/4 mile is about a 15.3, we're running about a 15.9-16.3.

Sorry dude
You gotta use the M3:lildevil:

 

[CadillacSTS42005]

borrow my 97 ETC or let me take him ill show him what a Caddy can do to a ricer

 

[ShadowLvr400]

Heck, even borrow my big Fleetwood, and definately go from a dig. The 5.7 is pulling hard with my 3.42's and posi.

 

[Mahalaleel]

Well, turns out it's a dang good thing I didn't race him. Just last week he was racing a civic, hopped lanes onto the wrong side of the road, and totalled his car on a median. Would have killed any passengers. :canttalk:

Phew.

 

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

wow wierd...some would say thats a reason not to street race..hope he's ok

 

[Mahalaleel]

A truck pulled out in front of him, apparently. He was fine, but a road sign would have decapitated anyone in the right side of the car...straight through.

A GREAT reason not to street race. If you don't have the skill or balls to stop and avoid wrecks, don't race.

 

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

wow its just like in "fast and furious" where that semi pulled out and *wrecked* that beautiful '70 Charger (tear.....)

 

[jadcock]

It's nothing about skill and balls, it's about being in control of the situation. And when you're street racing, you're definitely NOT in control, regardless of how much you think you are.

You could blow a tire. Or they could blow a tire. If either of you are close enough to each other, you both could go down. Or a car could pull out in front of you. Or a kid could come out into the street chasing a ball. Or a deer could jump out, etc. Any of these things can also happen when you're driving, but when you're driving, you're supposedly focusing your attention to the road. When you're street racing, you're focusing on nothing BUT beating the guy next to you, and that can turn dangerous very quick.

I saw a show once on street racing. It was a 60 minutes type show. The story followed a young man and (of all people) his mother through the world of street racing. She had a comment like, "well, I obviously don't want anything to happen to him, but if it does, at least I know he died doing something he loved." What a selfish and arrogant thing to say. Does anyone ever think of the OTHER people you sometimes kill during street races? Like the people on the sidewalk when you careen out of control, or the people in the oncoming traffic when you cross the center line?

 

[CadillacSTS42005]

jadcock your perfectly welcome to your opinion on theses things but the fact is people including me are gonna street race tickets accident blah blah blah arent gonna stop us. It selfish mayb but if some kid is stupid enough to run in the middle of a turnpike or an express way perhaps its not a significant loss cuz theyd have to be pretty stupid to go out and play in traffic. Driving period you take a risk everyday. Racing yes does increase this risk however there arent enough tracks around (none close to me and i live in Pittsburgh which isnt a hick town) to satisfy the craving. I take it to the track when i wanna do anything overly stupid, but is some smuck pulls along side me and think hes the sh** in his Jetta or Civic by all means im gonna set the lil punk in his place, and maybe just maybe after being shut down by an "Old Mans" car they will rethink their position on racing and remove the fart cannon from their and drive like a normal human.

 

[jadcock]

Unfortunately, for the victims, I think this is one of those things that many people have to have the unfortunate luck of experiencing, negatively, before they understand just what is at stake. I fully agree that there are a shortage of good tracks around...either dragstrips or autocross tracks or road courses. However, there's also something called self control that everyone gains as they mature. I didn't have it when I was in my teens either. But I didn't respect life as much back then, or my equipment (car). I can't imagine how bad I'd feel if I wrecked my beloved Cadillac over something like a street race.

I just hope it's not one of you who are the next victim of a street race, whether you're driving or you're an innocent bystander. And I hope to God that it's not one of my family members that dies in such a needless way as a metallic version of a pissing contest. Fortunately, the Hyundai in question here didn't kill anyone. As the poster said, any passenger would have been killed. If that had happened, I'm sure this thread would have taken a different turn, let alone the lives of those affected. It's a shame that the ego has such a powerful control over us human beings.

But I acknowledge that this is a street racing forum, and I respect everyone's privilege to post here, so I'll shut up and quit taking up the bandwidth. Sorry for the tangent.

 

[jadcock]

By the way, and I hate to keep dragging this out, but if you go way back to when this forum first started, back in 2003, I posted a few of my own "kill stories". They were always relatively slow races (never above 50-60 mph), but were probably dangerous nonetheless. I just hate to see loss of life in these insanely high speed deals on the beltline or other open road where two cars just get completely vaporized when they slam into a couple of trees on the side of the road.

But I'm probably over sensitized to the value of life, with a new baby and the Christmas season upon us, so don't mind me.

Cheers,

 

[Mahalaleel]

Your opinion is perfectly valid, and definitely correct. Regardless, most people have to learn firsthand before they stop. I rarely street race, but when I do, I street race in designated spots where the chances of deer/other cars/peds are are VERY low.

I'll probably learn better after my first ticket. You are right though jadcock. But I'm young...and invincible...of course...

The concern is noble :highfive:

 

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

yeah none of my "races" went over 65mph...its just fun sometimes. The streets where people do that sort of stuff around here are the 4 lane streets, where there isnt a lot of residental area around..but there is always a risk..and its not something I do often, and its never very busy. Its fun, but its a guilty sort of fun for me atleast, guilt for your car, guilt for others on the road.

 

[ShadowLvr400]

For me, If I am racing at high speeds, it's down roads that are built for high speeds. Recently played with a CTS-V some, on the highway. We hit over 100, but anyone running across that road has earned getting hit. I have rules though. I dont race in residentials, no school zones, avoid business districts, etc. Is there a chance I'll die? Sure, but with Orlando drivers, I'm no worse off than trying to get across any intersection. (Orlando drivers don't slow down for yellows, and don even always stop for reds...)

 

[I~LUV~Caddys8792]

Shadowlvr400, you raced a CTS-V in your FWB?