[djoneill]

I've read that Caddy is planning updates to the motor & interior of the next model year CTS (base not V).

Anyone know if/when these will be available? Are 2003.5 models shipping to dealers now?

Thanks,

Dave

 

[Brett]

i havent heard anything solid, but it seems likely that the 2004's will have some changes but i dont think anytime before that

 

[Devil_concours]

from what i've heard so far, they are going to address all the complaints and more. Interior is going to be more luxurious, and engine is going to be more powerful (somewhere in 250+hp range)

 

[PHATCAD]

from what i've heard so far, they are going to address all the complaints and more. Interior is going to be more luxurious, and engine is going to be more powerful (somewhere in 250+hp range)

:wave: Hello, everyone first post I'm sure everyone knows that the CTSV will have Corvettes LS1 with somewhere around 350 to 400 hp :thumbsup:

 

[Devil_concours]

Welcome to cadillacforumS.com. Is that your cts in the pic? Niiiiice

 

[djoneill]

When, exactly?

Hi-

Thanks for the great info! What I should have asked is, "when will the updates to the interior & engine be available? Late 2003?"

Thanks!

Dave

 

[Devil_concours]

I'm guessing this summer. Most cadillac dealer doesn't seem to have any idea what i'm talking about.

 

[Brett]

I'm guessing this summer. Most cadillac dealer doesn't seem to have any idea what i'm talking about.

cadillac dealer i talked to a few weeks ago told me not to believe everything i read, and that the v-series is just a rumor, i mentioned it was on the cadillac website but he did not seem impressed

 

[Devil_concours]

cadillac dealer i talked to a few weeks ago told me not to believe everything i read, and that the v-series is just a rumor, i mentioned it was on the cadillac website but he did not seem impressed

lol that's a classic
When i bought my 02 f250 4door lariat w/7.3l powerstroke diesel, I would have waited another month or two for the 03 model if i knew/if the salesman told me about the updated transmission and engine that will be on the 03 models.

 

[ljklaiber]

Glad I came to CTS forum. Phatcads photo is the best looking CTS I have seen. Only way I can get my 95 SLS back from wife is get her to like the CTS..LOL. driving her old 92 Civic is a bore.

Good info....Thanks

 

[BUILDINGCTSAMG]

went around today to a dozen or so high perfomance places, no one on the east seems to be touching the cts's unless you want to drop a ton of money.

 

[Tyler80]

Heads up for 2004. Bigdaddycoats from the Edmunds.com board has found a site with information regarding the 2004 Cadillac CTS changes and or upgrades. The site 2004 Online Order / Reference Guide has specific ordering information regarding many GM makes and models I'm assuming for use by dealerships. Navigation is quick and easy and could provide some much needed information regarding package option changes for the 2004 model as well as engine questions. I have cut and pasted the "new" information for the 2004 Cadillac CTS. But there have been some option packages that have changed or that have been added that might interest you if you're looking to buy a 2004 Cadillac CTS like I am. Anyways big thanks to Bigdaddycoats for the heads up on this website, let the 2004 CTS information search continue.

Deletions


Exterior color 12U Sterling
Exterior color 84U Garnet Red
Exterior color 85U Copper Sunburst

New Features


Exterior color 29U Red Line
Exterior color 42U Silver Smoke
Driver and front passenger 2-way power lumbar added to (AH8) Seat adjuster
(PDL) Luxury Package included on 1SB and 1SC
(PDP) Luxury Performance Package available on 1SA
(PDX) Sport Package available on 1SA and 1SB. Standard on 1SC
(LY7) 3.6L V6 Engine (260 hp) available on 1SA, standard on 1SB and 1SC
New design for (QF7) 17" aluminum painted wheels available on 1SA and 1SB
New design for (N93) 17" aluminum mirror-polish finish wheels standard on 1SC

Changes


Exterior color (25U) has name change from Blue Onyx to Blue Chip
Exterior color (41U) has name change from Sable Black to Black Raven
Engine water temperature gauge replaces clock in IP (late 2003 change)
(LA3) 3.2L V6 Engine standard on 1SA
(M35) 5-speed manual Getrag transmission standard on 1SA. Not available on 1SB or 1SC
(M82) 5-speed automatic transmission available on 1SA. Standard on 1SB and 1SC
(KA1) Heated driver and front passenger seats require (PDL) Luxury Package
(UAV) Sound system with DVD navigation now includes (U2K XM Satellite Radio)
(PF4) 16" aluminum painted wheels standard on 1SA
(PX0) 16" aluminum bright machined finish wheels standard on 1SB

 

[Tyler80]

You can check out the GM 2004 Online Order / Reference Guide by copy and pasting the link below into your browser.
http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/brandsel.jsp?year=2004&regionID=1

 

[peccles]

I was surprised to see no manual trans for the 3.6L engine. I hope this new
engine allows the CTS to get better gas mileage.

 

[Tyler80]

From what I have heard: many people have called their dealers to see if the no manual transmission on the 3.6L is a mistake or to complain about GM only offering it on the 3.2L. What the dealers have said is manual transmission CTS's only account for 2% of total CTS sales. Basicially put, if people don't buy, dealers stop ordering, and manufactures stop producing.

 

[peccles]

From what I have heard: many people have called their dealers to see if the no manual transmission on the 3.6L is a mistake or to complain about GM only offering it on the 3.2L. What the dealers have said is manual transmission CTS's only account for 2% of total CTS sales. Basicially put, if people don't buy, dealers stop ordering, and manufactures stop producing.

If that's the reason, then why keep the manual
at all? Maybe they should make the auto
standard and the manual and extra cost option
like is done with the Corvette. Then the
manual should be the same 6 speed that
goes into the CTS-V.

The CTS has only been out one model year
and probably has not attracted a high
percentage of people that were not already
considering a Cadillac purchase. If GM
wants to continue to compare the CTS
with the BMWs and be serious about it
then a manual is needed with all engine
options and especially the higher
performance engines.

 

[Chuck C]

if you ask me, the folks at GM are complicating the CTS...offer the 3.6L only with manual as an option and be done with it already!

 

[Tyler80]

Honestly I agree with Chuck. Make the options simple, switch over to the 3.6L, offer the manual as an option, not standard and be done with it.

 

[Chuck C]

If GM wants to continue to compare the CTS with the BMWs and be serious about it then a manual is needed with all engine options and especially the higher performance engines.

yes! let's talk about the new V6. Is it brand new? Anything special about it?

 

[Jinx]

The optional engine is a ploy to keep the base msrp down ("see? almost no price increase!") while real-world prices jump. It will also guarantee the death of the manual transmission in all but the CSTv -- a shortsighted move in my opinion. If GM isn't selling manual transmissions they need to ask why instead of assuming there is no demand -- maybe their manual transmission is not competitive, or maybe the car is not attractive to sport-minded drivers. The competition offers manual transmissions. Production economies be damned, if you don't offer a manual, it's not a sports sedan, period.

.Jinx