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Hi all, I am looking at buying a 2000 STS. 80k miles but the engine was replaced at 50k. Is this a decent year to buy? From what I see the head gasket problem was fixed in the 2000 model year. I don't know why the engine was replaced but the current owner bought it as a lemon buy back from GM in 2004. He used a GM crate motor as a replacement. A friend of mine told me not to buy anything but 2003 or up but he did not know why. It is just something he has heard in the past. Is there a better year for engines and transmissions than others? I am looking for something reliable for my wife to drive to work. I want the body style of the 2000's.
 

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OK, "2003 or up" doesn't make any sense! 2003 is the last year of Seville STS, and all new STS was introduced in 2005. Therefore 2003 or up does not refer to an specific category of Cadillac STS.
 

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2002.5-2003 STS has MagneRide(F55) which is far superior than CVRSS or passive struts.

GM lengthened the head bolts in 2000 and went with coarser threads in 2004. Chance of failure is significantly decreased because of lengthening and making coarser, but it was not a 100% fix.
 

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If a GM dealer installed a crate engine in 2004 you're good to go.

The references to the active suspension components - and other exotic stuff - You're looking at a car that originally sold for above $48,000. That's the level of maintenance cost you'll incur, NOT the 2011 purchase price level.

You buy the car and hang in here and all the buzzwords and numbers will become second nature..................Do some informed tire kicking and ask yourself how much time and money you want to dump into a (come June) 12 year old car.
 

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GM lengthened the head bolts in 2000 and went to a coarser thread pitch in '04. Maybe that is whet your friend was mistakenly referring to.
 

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The change in head bolts was all that I could find. I didnt see any changes in 2003. So how reliable are the engines after 2000? Are there still a lot of problems or should I look into buying something else. I have had 3 Jags in the past and I dont want to get into another vehicle like them that I need to work on constantly.
 

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FWIW, you said you want the body style of the 2000's but the body actually started in 98 :D
 

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custom99;2497064 I have had 3 Jags in the past and I dont want to get into another vehicle like them that I need to work on constantly.[/QUOTE said:
As a past Jag, Austin-Healey and MG owner I can testify that a 2000+ is relatively maintenance-free compared to them.

I bought my 2002.5 in 11/05 and other than normal maintenance (oil/filter, coolant, battery, trans fluid, brake fluid, p/s fluid, air filter changes) and tires I have had NO problems except for the CKP's which were done under warranty. The original owner had the ignition switch, one front hub and steering column Intermediate Shaft done under warranty.

As in all else concerning sales and money, if the price is too good to be true, something's fishy. Pay the dealer going rate for a certified used car off the dealer lot and you'll be OK. $2999 at Joe's Cars and Busses down on the corner is a sure recipe for disaster. An excellent used 2002 - 2003 STS with most options, 85,000 miles, is still worth $9,000 - $11000 retail, maybe a couple grand less, private - but then you have exactly zero warranty.
 

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Personaly i wouldnt look any difrant at a 1998-2002 first run 02s atleast this is my thinking becuase of my luck i spend 1k more for the 2000 because i was hoping to stay away from the Head gaskets but that didnt help
i wouldnt look at another seville right now unless i was going ot get a 2002.5 or 03 sts or a 04 sls
my advice dont get a 2000 but im just bias and most evyeorne here knows why after all iv spent 12,989 fixing a 11 year old car in the last 12 months or so give or take a few months
 
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