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Hi...I understand that this topic has been discussed numerous times, but I'm still confused and was hoping someone can explain these questions to me in the simplest way possible.
I have a 2000 Eldorado ETC with 74,500 miles, which is requiring new front struts that I need to order and have installed by next weekend.
I was looking at 2 brands...being Arnott and Strutmaster due to the OEM active struts being too expensive for me to replace.
I understand that both brands include an electronic bypass plug, which is simply plugged in to avoid the error code, but I'm not understanding why these struts are different with what is included.
The Arnott (SK-2178 made in China) comes with just the struts, and states in their installation guide, that you have to re-use your existing mounts and springs.
The Strutmaster (CADF6 made in the U.S.A.) comes with the struts, new mounts and new springs.....but yet they are both in the same price range.
Has anyone actually had a personal interaction with these 2 brands ?
Is the quality better than the other ?
What is the ride quality experience with them ?
Will the rear OEM shocks still work as intended when the bypass plug on the new front struts are installed ?
Are the both gas charged ?
I have also read that these 2 brands may be overpriced.....and that some forum members liked the Monroe (30142) which are included in the (90011) kit, but to be honest....I'm a little confused by what they are saying on the Monroe web site as far as what parts I need to use this brand.
Also since Monroe doesn't offer a bypass plug, and I understand that a resistor will have to be installed.
Can someone please explain how to do this.
It's 5:00am EST and my brain is in overload from looking at struts online for the past 5 hours online, so any help would be appreciated.
Thank you so much....Sal, NJ
 

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basscatt can fill you in on the strut/shock work. But stay away from either Arnott or Strutmasters.

The resistors, used to fool the suspension control and monitoring systems when you convert the suspension from (what used to be) sport to floaty, are extremely low-cost (35 cents each) carbon or metal film pieces from Radio Shack. Buy them in a cutesy box from the aftermarketers and they're $50 each. You want 4.7K Ohm resistors - 4700 Ohm. Bend the leads into a U and plug one into each body harness connector. Waterproof/insulate well.
 

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I was looking at 2 brands...being Arnott and Strutmaster
BOTH are overpriced junk - I would NEVER use EITHER on my cars -

I recommend the Monroe 30142 - $36 each - including shipping -
http://www.partsgeek.com/pr1b8kh-cadillac-deville-strut-assembly.html?fp=pp

or the ACDELCO 503671 - LEFT - $62 - WITH FREE SHIPPING
and ACDELCO 503672 - RIGHT - $62 - WITH FREE SHIPPING -
http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-503-672-Professional-Passenger-Suspension/dp/B00HFLD9JQ

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Will the rear OEM shocks still work as intended
when the bypass plug on the new front struts are installed ?

YES -

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some forum members liked the Monroe (30142)
which are included in the (90011) kit,
but to be honest....I'm a little confused by what they are saying on the Monroe web site
as far as what parts I need to use this brand.

the 30142 is the bare strut -
you would re-use all the original strut assembly parts -
spring - spring seats - upper mount - bearing - etc -

the 90011 KIT had everything needed to replace BOTH sides -
EXCEPT new springs -
it has been discontinued - and replaced with -
90011-1 - RIGHT - $127 - with free shipping -
and 90011-2 - LEFT - $127 - with free shipping -
http://www.partsgeek.com/dp6cxvc-cadillac-deville-suspension-conversion-kit.html?fp=pp

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since Monroe doesn't offer a bypass plug,
and I understand that a resistor will have to be installed

correct -
You need 4.7K Ohm 1/2W resistors - RadioShack #271-1124 -
a pack of 5 is less than $1.50 -
you need one resistor for each strut/shock -

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Can someone please explain how to do this.
several ways to install the resistors -

the "fast and dirty" method -
bend the resistor wires into a "U" -
stick the two ends into the two holes in the plug -
wrap it up well with electrical tape -
stuff it up and out of the way -

the BEST method -
cut the plug off the old strut -
solder the resistor onto the plug wires -
protect with heatshrink tubing -
plug the newly made resistor assembly in -
 

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I can't thank you both enough for your responses.....they were very helpful.
Thanks to your recommendation, I am going to purchase the ACDELCO #503671 & #503672 struts, and take a ride to RadioShack.
There's something about the ACDELCO brand part that sits better with me, and I feel that I could possibly achieve the closest thing to the original ride while using passive struts with this brand.
My question now is, I am going to purchase upper strut mounts but am confused on the following 2 ACDELCO parts being, #901-040 & #501-189.
Can you please tell me the proper upper mount that should be used with the #503671's & #503672's.
Also are there any other important parts that should be replaced during the installation ?
Thank you so much again.....
Sal, NJ
 

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I can't thank you both enough for your responses.....they were very helpful.
Thanks to your recommendation, I am going to purchase the ACDELCO #503671 & #503672 struts, and take a ride to RadioShack.
There's something about the ACDELCO brand part that sits better with me, and I feel that I could possibly achieve the closest thing to the original ride while using passive struts with this brand.
My question now is, I am going to purchase upper strut mounts but am confused on the following 2 ACDELCO parts being, #901-040 & #501-189.
Can you please tell me the proper upper mount that should be used with the #503671's & #503672's.
Also are there any other important parts that should be replaced during the installation ?
Thank you so much again.....
Sal, NJ
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Can you please tell me the proper upper mount that should be used
I'd go with the 901-040
 

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Thank you so much for your quick response.
Do you think replacing the coil springs or anything else is necessary?
 

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Thank you so much for your quick response.
Do you think replacing the coil springs or anything else is necessary?
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with only 75K miles - I doubt you would need springs -
however -
you would need to measure ride-height to be 100% sure -

the ETC has the FE3 - "sport" suspension -
which consist of stiffer springs and larger diameter sway bars -

ALL aftermarket springs -
and currently available dealer springs -
are based on the FE1 "soft ride" suspension -

the only chance of getting genuine FE3 springs
would be through a KNOWLEDGEABLE parts guy at a dealer -
willing to hunt through old catalogs for an original part number -
because they are no longer listed -
 

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I can't thank you enough for your help.
Your knowledge truly shines.
Sal, NJ
 
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