[goblinthedog]

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum, my name is Dave. I recently purchased a 1997 Cadillac Deville for 4665.0 with 77,000 miles on it, body perfect, interior perfect, all the power works and the antenna still goes up down. I spent several months looking for the perfect car and finally found one that was in state, Colorado. I checked the car fax, and two thousand miles ago it had a new radiator and thermostat installed. I went to a very small dealership and signed the AS IS form and drove it off with a smile on my face. I think you all know what happened next. As the temperature increased, the smile disappeared. In all my research for the perfect vehicle, I failed to lookup potential issued with the car and when I did, I realized that I had taken my hard earned cash, plus two grand I borrowed from a friend and threw it away. After several weeks of maybe it's not the head gasket, I have finally come to grips with it. I spent a few more weeks going to mechanics and Cadillac dealerships trying to find a solution. I've had quotes from 1700-4000 to fix it. I could just dump it and try to not lose all my money but I really do love the car. I found Northstar Performance and after reviewing the website, I truly understand the issue, but it creates another issue. If i do want to fix it right I need to take it to NSP. I'm concerned that shops that don't have an understanding will just try and sleeve it, put me down more money and it's still not fixed. Are there any shops in the USA that might be closer to me, (Colorado) that would fix it too NSP standards? I thank you all for your time and any input would be greatly appreciated,

Dave

 

[RON93]

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum, my name is Dave. I recently purchased a 1997 Cadillac Deville for 4665.0 with 77,000 miles on it, body perfect, interior perfect, all the power works and the antenna still goes up down. I spent several months looking for the perfect car and finally found one that was in state, Colorado. I checked the car fax, and two thousand miles ago it had a new radiator and thermostat installed. I went to a very small dealership and signed the AS IS form and drove it off with a smile on my face. I think you all know what happened next. As the temperature increased, the smile disappeared. In all my research for the perfect vehicle, I failed to lookup potential issued with the car and when I did, I realized that I had taken my hard earned cash, plus two grand I borrowed from a friend and threw it away. After several weeks of maybe it's not the head gasket, I have finally come to grips with it. I spent a few more weeks going to mechanics and Cadillac dealerships trying to find a solution. I've had quotes from 1700-4000 to fix it. I could just dump it and try to not lose all my money but I really do love the car. I found Northstar Performance and after reviewing the website, I truly understand the issue, but it creates another issue. If i do want to fix it right I need to take it to NSP. I'm concerned that shops that don't have an understanding will just try and sleeve it, put me down more money and it's still not fixed. Are there any shops in the USA that might be closer to me, (Colorado) that would fix it too NSP standards? I thank you all for your time and any input would be greatly appreciated,

Dave

Sorry you got stuck but that is the FIRST thing you check with a Northstar motor. A simple $8 block test that takes all of 1 minute would have told you. I had it done on my car for $2400 the right way. Every oil seal and gasket is done along with the head bolts. I had mine done in Pennsylvania by a Northstar Cadillac specialist. You could have it done for $1700 but I'm assuming it is just the heads and will fix your problem, but chances are some oil seals will be bad so just do it right the first time while the motor is out of the car. I would not go to a dealership if possible, they charge too much.

 

[jmf1964]

When i had to do mine, the best answer i could get locally was "buy an engine, we'll put it in for you". Nobody wanted to touch a Northstar head gasket job. I also talked to a couple shops recommended by folks here but the the best they could tell me was a 3-4 week turn around time, after i shipped it to them, i couldn't wait that long. I ended up buying a rebuilt longblock and having a local shop do the swap.

 

[Submariner409]

Whichever way you choose to repair the failed cylinder block head bolt hole threads, contact the manufacturer of the studs/inserts to see if they have a local shop somewhere near you that uses their product.

http://northstarperformance.com/

www.huhnsolutions.com

 

[DTS Lou]

Sorry you got stuck but that is the FIRST thing you check with a Northstar motor. A simple $8 block test that takes all of 1 minute would have told you. I had it done on my car for $2400 the right way. Every oil seal and gasket is done along with the head bolts. I had mine done in Pennsylvania by a Northstar Cadillac specialist. You could have it done for $1700 but I'm assuming it is just the heads and will fix your problem, but chances are some oil seals will be bad so just do it right the first time while the motor is out of the car. I would not go to a dealership if possible, they charge too much.

Just curious, was it Gable's in New Holland, PA? They did 2 for me over the years.

 

[RON93]

Just curious, was it Gable's in New Holland, PA? They did 2 for me over the years.

No it was GM specialties in Pottsville. Jim is the owner. He has two plans, just the head gaskets for $1900 and all the oil seals for $2400.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-N...566676?hash=item2f20baa894:g:RiMAAOSw~OdVWqpp

 

[rodnok01]

Outside shot the purge line is plugged but until do a block test and diagnose it for sure i wouldn't dump the cash into it.
It's not a horribly technical repair just alot of work and depending on oil leaks want fixed adds to the fun and costs.

 

[goblinthedog]

Thank you all for your input, really appreciate it.