Please speak for yourself. My CTS is the best car I've ever owned. I came from an Audi A6 and ,as you have said, never looked back.kgall005 said:
12 Billion to Fix Cadillac!
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"... our cars suck." I learned that our is the plural of my and cars is the plural of car. No?
My car does not suck. Love it. Have no problems so far and I paid less for the CTS than my ATS. Win for me!
Don't worry Cadillac is already working on the fix.
Moving to NY and changing the names were the first steps.
I like the name CT6. If you pronounce it quickly it sounds like... shitty sex...
Moving to NY and changing the names were the first steps.
I like the name CT6. If you pronounce it quickly it sounds like... shitty sex...
My purpose here is not to defend Cadillac but I can guarantee if you go to any auto brand forum...Lexus, Toyota etc... you would think they are all building cars about to disintegrate in 100 miles. Owners often come to car forums because they have a problem or complaint which is understandable. It pays to keep things in perspective although that does not mean I don't want Cadillac to get rid of that black dot in the Consumer Reports auto reviews.
It's so annoying hearing people talk about '14 leftovers, the price of the car & how they are leaving Cadillac. Here's some insight on why your opinions don't matter:
1. Cadillac has the financial power of GM behind them.
2. Understand how manufacturing works--many GM vehicles share the same electrical components, electrical motors and manufacturing processes. This brings manufacturing costs down substantially.
3. GM makes contract commitments to suppliers when buying parts. Have you ever seen a car disassembled at the end of the model year and parts returned?
4. Even though the '14 models are heavily discounted, GM is still making money.
5. The 2014 models I have personally seen leftover are either high-priced models or V-Sports (which aren't big sellers where I live, everyone wants AWD for the winter). Point is, many people are leasing today over buying. People that want to lease have to lease the '15 models because the '14 models can only be purchased.
6. Fastest depreciation? Based on a 1-year report? So basically people are trying to say that a 5-year old Gen 3 is going to have a resale value less than a 5-year old Gen 2? Yeah, sure......
7. You have had some issues with your CTS, which explains your attitude towards the CTS/Cadillac. Understandable, but why keep bitching on the forum? I have over 10K on my CTS, no issues at all, I love the car!
8. Cadillac has failed at marketing/advertising the new CTS--miserably. That is why sales are not good. It's not because of the car, it's not because it's a Cadillac, it's not because of price. The CTS at any trim level compared to an equally equipped A6, E-class, 5-series is less expensive and the performance numbers don't lie. If you don't believe me, go to the manufacturer websites and build those vehicles to match the CTS trim levels.
The CTS is a world class car. Cadillac has failed at not letting the world know this. Hopefully, they are learning from their mistakes.
1. Cadillac has the financial power of GM behind them.
2. Understand how manufacturing works--many GM vehicles share the same electrical components, electrical motors and manufacturing processes. This brings manufacturing costs down substantially.
3. GM makes contract commitments to suppliers when buying parts. Have you ever seen a car disassembled at the end of the model year and parts returned?
4. Even though the '14 models are heavily discounted, GM is still making money.
5. The 2014 models I have personally seen leftover are either high-priced models or V-Sports (which aren't big sellers where I live, everyone wants AWD for the winter). Point is, many people are leasing today over buying. People that want to lease have to lease the '15 models because the '14 models can only be purchased.
6. Fastest depreciation? Based on a 1-year report? So basically people are trying to say that a 5-year old Gen 3 is going to have a resale value less than a 5-year old Gen 2? Yeah, sure......
7. You have had some issues with your CTS, which explains your attitude towards the CTS/Cadillac. Understandable, but why keep bitching on the forum? I have over 10K on my CTS, no issues at all, I love the car!
8. Cadillac has failed at marketing/advertising the new CTS--miserably. That is why sales are not good. It's not because of the car, it's not because it's a Cadillac, it's not because of price. The CTS at any trim level compared to an equally equipped A6, E-class, 5-series is less expensive and the performance numbers don't lie. If you don't believe me, go to the manufacturer websites and build those vehicles to match the CTS trim levels.
The CTS is a world class car. Cadillac has failed at not letting the world know this. Hopefully, they are learning from their mistakes.
Actually, I do consider my Vsport a "modern marvel of engineering." The car is an absolute blast to drive. Over the past 20 years, my dad and I have owned 9 Caddy's. All were well built and trouble-free. Should I be allowed to say, "All Cadillacs are great cars! They build nothing but winners!" Of course not. How is that any different from your negative comment about all Cadillacs sucking? Anyway, I'm sorry you've had a bad experience with yours. Hopefully you'll find a resolution soon.It was a sarcastic remark about the negative undertone of this forum.. So yes the second part of my statement was plural... So Cadillac, my car sucks!!! I won't buy another, thanks for building a car with the worst resale value, thanks for building a car the has a vibrating engine, Thanks for the worst sales year ever, and lastly thanks for Theroider hopefully he will save the brand, because he seems to be happy to own this modern marvel of engineering..
Again, speak for yourself. My CTS is the greatest car I've ever driven. Had it for 16 months and have yet to take in for any repairs. It has been perfect. CUE is outstanding! Again, speak for yourself.Well good luck Cadillac, because when I get rid of this one, I won't buy another... I love this forum, its all about how bad our cars suck....
I would have to say I've been a Cadillac fan until finding out the issues with all the high output 3.6 which are known for stretched timing chains which dealerships want to blame the consumer instead of gm fixing the problem instead of making better parts to fix problem $3600.00 later my wife finally has her car back.Understand this Cadillac is still using this engine today so be prepared to pay
Agreed. I hope you sell your car soon since you hate it so much. The forum will be less negative, too.Well good luck Cadillac, because when I get rid of this one, I won't buy another... I love this forum, its all about how bad our cars suck....
This will be my last one also !!!!!!
Your actually trying to compare UConnect to Cue? Are f'ing serious? It's like your purposely trying to troll the forum. I have family members and friends with Jeep Grand Cherokees (2013 and 2014 with the new updated interior)--it is nothing like CUE and the screens that Chrysler uses looks like they are from 2000.That doesn't speak highly of the cars you have previously owned then in "my opinion" I think people get hung up on the title, I own a "Cadillac" instead of what that should or does actually mean. One of the new threads on here is about a guy looking at the Hyundai Genesis as an option. A good option, actually a better option to him at least than Cadillac. He is looking a value and what he gets for his money. My 2013 Dodge durango had wifi, but not my 2014 Cadillac. CUE is very cool, i agree but UConnect blows it out of the water functionally speaking. Is my CTS pretty, sure it is, i get compliments on it all the time. But as I tell all those people,, if you ever dated that hot blonde girl in school only to find out there was no substance and she was high maintenance, buy a Cadillac..
I'm glad you brough up Wi-Fi connectivity. Who is actually planning on subscribing to this? It's a marketing gimmick. If you have a newer Android or IPhone, you can make your phone a hotspot--and I travel for work, I'm in the car all the time. I wouldn't ever pay for that--I would love to see the actual numbers of subscribers for all auto manufacturers who sign up for wi-Fi in the vehicle. I'd be shocked if it was over 5%.
We currently have a 2014 CTS with CUE and a 2014 Town & Country with Uconnect. They both have good and bad, but both the wife and I have found CUE to be the superior system in many ways. The new Uconnect doesn't like our iPhones (yet her 2008 did, go figure), it doesn't stream Pandora, it doesn't allow you to do anything remotely with a phone app, and it has a smaller screen. Her 2008 T&C used to allow splitscreen of Nav and music. The 2014 does not have that functionality for some reason. The only thing her Uconnect has that I prefer over the CUE is more hard buttons to get around menus. For the life of me, I can't figure out what so many people have against CUE. I love it.
God I wish all the Lexus, Audi, Jaguar salesmen would get off this forum.
They are too busy selling cars!God I wish all the Lexus, Audi, Jaguar salesmen would get off this forum.
The $12 billion is for 8 new vehicles and new engines, the Autoblog headline the title is borrowed from is opinion and being parroted by someone who no longer owns a Cadillac and has nothing but negative things to say about the gen 3 CTS even though he's never owned one.So your point is, never mind your 50 to 60 thousand dollar car doesn't have it... AT&T does... hummm, oook... Every single review I watched on youtube discussed the horrors of CUE.. Even my dealer during the sale of the car mentioned it required patience to operate. If you like it, thats all that matters. Any way I'm bored now, I've messed with you guys long enough..
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Oh yea one last thing... The title of this thread is "It's going to cost $12 billion to fix Cadillac" So just remember your wonderful car manufacture is going to require 12 Billion dollars to fix....
Cadillac isn't completely broken IMO because when you look at their data, sales down 7% from last year and average transaction price up 20% from last year plus 60% of their buyers are new to the brand, they're doing Ok.
lol you guys are killing me!
anyway, i am new to cadillac, and frankly i am very happy with the car. previously i had a 2014 Lexus IS 350 rwd which was a very nice car except for the fact the nav system reboots for no reason, the seat heaters get luke warm at best, the ipod connection drops for no good reason, the Pandora is worthless because you have to have an app running to use it.
and did i mention when you get the fully loaded F sport you have to give up just about every other feature Lexus is known for.
13 months and i had to dump it!
on paper they look great but in real world use i couldn't stand it anymore and at 6500 feet altitude my 350 was a sad excuse for a performance sedan
i will say that the CTS at sticker price is overpriced about 5k IMO if Cadillac wants to attract more buyers they simply don't have the pedigree to attract the demographics and buyers they seek that already own BMW, Audi, MB and the like in the performance luxury sedan segment.
my 2014 CTS V sport premium has everything i wished my Lexus had. i would have paid 60k for it all day long but fortunately i got it for 52k and that made it an easy decision considering i was 4 k upside down in my Lexus after only 13 months.
BTW my car goes in for service tomorrow morning for a tire pressure monitoring problem and poor reception of the keyfob, but the module responsible for both items is getting replaced.
despite that quirk im still happy with the car.
both my 2013 and 2014 lexus had to have the battery replaced just a few months ago. not sure why but apparently any car is going to have issues.
anyway, i am new to cadillac, and frankly i am very happy with the car. previously i had a 2014 Lexus IS 350 rwd which was a very nice car except for the fact the nav system reboots for no reason, the seat heaters get luke warm at best, the ipod connection drops for no good reason, the Pandora is worthless because you have to have an app running to use it.
and did i mention when you get the fully loaded F sport you have to give up just about every other feature Lexus is known for.
13 months and i had to dump it!
on paper they look great but in real world use i couldn't stand it anymore and at 6500 feet altitude my 350 was a sad excuse for a performance sedan
i will say that the CTS at sticker price is overpriced about 5k IMO if Cadillac wants to attract more buyers they simply don't have the pedigree to attract the demographics and buyers they seek that already own BMW, Audi, MB and the like in the performance luxury sedan segment.
my 2014 CTS V sport premium has everything i wished my Lexus had. i would have paid 60k for it all day long but fortunately i got it for 52k and that made it an easy decision considering i was 4 k upside down in my Lexus after only 13 months.
BTW my car goes in for service tomorrow morning for a tire pressure monitoring problem and poor reception of the keyfob, but the module responsible for both items is getting replaced.
despite that quirk im still happy with the car.
both my 2013 and 2014 lexus had to have the battery replaced just a few months ago. not sure why but apparently any car is going to have issues.
Here we go with the CUE complaints. As I have stated several times on this forum, I have CUE on a '13 SRX and '14 CTS (also had it on a '14 ATS before I traded it for the CTS). All three vehicles have worked fine with CUE. My wife uses CUE with no issues on her '13 SRX. My 80+ year old grandfather uses CUE with no issues on his '14 SRX. My friend has no issues using CUE on his '13 ATS. If people took the time to read the manual to understand how CUE works, there wouldn't be any issues. Secondly, a lot of things are controlled by the steering wheel controls--I rarely touch the CUE screen.So your point is, never mind your 50 to 60 thousand dollar car doesn't have it... AT&T does... hummm, oook... Every single review I watched on youtube discussed the horrors of CUE.. Even my dealer during the sale of the car mentioned it required patience to operate. If you like it, thats all that matters. Any way I'm bored now, I've messed with you guys long enough..
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Oh yea one last thing... The title of this thread is "It's going to cost $12 billion to fix Cadillac" So just remember your wonderful car manufacture is going to require 12 Billion dollars to fix....
I lease my cars--so I could care less about depreciation. All I know is that when I bring them in, the dealership is trying to sell them because of the condition I keep my vehicles in. I could care less if Cadillac is the #1 selling vehicle in the world--if that's what you want, go buy a Ford F-Series truck. All I have been trying to say is that the CTS is a world class vehicle, Cadillac did a terrible job marketing it and hopefully Cadillac learns from its mistakes.
I actually took a look on the local Audi, BMW & Mercedes dealers websites for 2014 models and guess what I found? 2014 models still available for sale (A7, S5, E350, ML350, etc). Considering that my Cadillac dealer (Valley Cadillac) has almost 200 new cars for sale---the other 3 German dealerships combined have 419 vehicles for sale. My Cadillac dealer has half the inventory of the 3 "awesome" German dealerships. You know what that tells me? That my Cadillac dealer is outselling the German cars in my city. Let's not forget that the Germans have way more vehicles in their lineups than Cadillac (ATS, CTS, XTS, SRX, Escalade).
Just traded a 12 335i Sedan on a 14 Vsport. First Caddy ever and love it. Had 3 Bimmers, 3 Lexus's, Mercedes, Vettes, you name it, but this Vsport's drive is amazing and all things considered, tops them all. The rear is a little tame so I will probably be adding the spoiler. If Caddy keeps pumping out cars like this, I will be a repeat customer for life.
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