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Some may recall from previous threads that after swapping my XM Commander for the Radios and More integrated XM for the CTS, I found out that the pewter face radios don't have the XM software in them, since it wasn't an option until GM switched to the black interior.

Of course, I don't want to go back to an add-on looking XM, but I NEED XM. So I go buy a DVD based Nav on EBay. The good news is that the faces swap out very easily and are exactly the same, except for the color. So now I have a DVD based Nav in my CTS with the Pewter face. I plug it in and the XM preview channel works right away . . . I'm so excited. It didn't come with a DVD, so I insert my local CD map from my CD Based Nav. Hey, every DVD player reads CDs right? I've put music CDs in my Nav disk slot and they played fine, before. It won't read the CD based map data.

No sweat, I was going to get a Zenrin disk anyhow. So I go online to order one. I ordered version 6.4. FOUR WEEK DELAYS! Oh well, no navigation for now, but at least I have my XM back, AND a 6 disk changer that works now (at least I hope it does, I haven't actually tried it since I just installed in 30 minutes ago).

Cost to get rid of the XM Commander add-on display screen with a working Nav system: $300 for the Radios and More XMDirect and harness, $1000 for a DVD Nav, $168 for 2 year family plan (+ $15 activation), $190 for a DVD map disk (with a four week wait!).

Oh well, at least I'm happy to have integrated XM now! LOL Now I gotta find a DVD movie and go to the garage to see if it works!
 

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:yup: Great. I saw two sold on eBay for $1000.00. Great price. I sent you a PM.
 

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odysseus said:
Some may recall from previous threads that after swapping my XM Commander for the Radios and More integrated XM for the CTS, I found out that the pewter face radios don't have the XM software in them, since it wasn't an option until GM switched to the black interior.

Of course, I don't want to go back to an add-on looking XM, but I NEED XM. So I go buy a DVD based Nav on EBay. The good news is that the faces swap out very easily and are exactly the same, except for the color. So now I have a DVD based Nav in my CTS with the Pewter face. I plug it in and the XM preview channel works right away . . . I'm so excited. It didn't come with a DVD, so I insert my local CD map from my CD Based Nav. Hey, every DVD player reads CDs right? I've put music CDs in my Nav disk slot and they played fine, before. It won't read the CD based map data.

No sweat, I was going to get a Zenrin disk anyhow. So I go online to order one. I ordered version 6.4. FOUR WEEK DELAYS! Oh well, no navigation for now, but at least I have my XM back, AND a 6 disk changer that works now (at least I hope it does, I haven't actually tried it since I just installed in 30 minutes ago).

Cost to get rid of the XM Commander add-on display screen with a working Nav system: $300 for the Radios and More XMDirect and harness, $1000 for a DVD Nav, $168 for 2 year family plan (+ $15 activation), $190 for a DVD map disk (with a four week wait!).

Oh well, at least I'm happy to have integrated XM now! LOL Now I gotta find a DVD movie and go to the garage to see if it works!
Check your PM.
 

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I'll likely be putting it up for sale soon (on this forum first, before EBay). It's sort of a hodge-podge now. One reason for my upgrade is that an audio CD (my favorite Blues mix) jammed in the 6 disk changer and I was quoted $350 to have it fixed. Specmo has a price of $89 to repair it, or $275 exchanged, plus $150 for the 6 disk changer.

http://www.specmo.com/OEMRadios/OEMRadioDetails.asp

The other issue is that it does not have XM firmware in it (was built before XM was an option), so if anyone wanted to go with XM, you'd have to add an external tuner with a hardline FM converter. I had the XM Commander, which sounded great to me.

Even though it's a CD based Nav, it now has the black 'DVD' faceplate from the newer Nav. Most likely, I'll throw in the 11 CD map disk set, and a complete harness set (that I developed from the Nav Phase II install now listed at CadillacFAQ) for the VSS, audible directions, and voice commands, since I have a lot of leftover parts when I developed the harnessing. One would still need a GPS antenna from GMPD for under $50 (PN: 25726417). It would also need the 'theftlock' removed at your dealer after it's installed, since it's currently got my VIN in it.

Other than the jammed audio CD, it works great, and I used it daily in my business travelling. I'm not sure who would want it (or how much it's worth) with a non-operational 6 disk changer. For those who are thinking it, the non-nav 6 disk changer can not be retrofitted (I already tried this using my old 6 disk DIC based radio. They're made by different companies, in different countries (VDO in Germany, and Delphi -made in Mexico).
 

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I might be interested for the right price :cool2:
My dash is pewter like yours though, but maybe I can find a faceplate or a nice dash kit. Either way it would be something to toy around with and at least get my car nav ready.
Right now I have Sirius, so I’m not concerned about XM. Since I haven’t been looking at navs that much I would have no idea what a hodgepodge jammed cd nav would be worth.
Anyway, when you come up with a number please email me. ([email protected]) so I have something to think about and talk over with my wife. :duck:
Also, how exactly is it jammed? Is it just one cd that is jammed? Can you still put others in? Does it still play the cd that is jammed?
Thanks.
 

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I am also interested in the Nav unit.

Please let me know whenever you decide at aravindb {at} comcast {dot} net.
( please change the email address above to the correct format.. this is just to avoid spam )

Thanks in advance.
Aravind
 

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Shaft has it now, and hopefully it's now working in his dash. thanks, tho.
 

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If you already have a factory Nav, or have wired the VSS into the harness per the FAQ instructions for retrofitting a Nav, then all CTS Nav's are plug and play and interchageable. The newer one is functionally and physically identical to the early one. Besides having a DVD player replacing the CDROM, and a black face rather than Pewter, I've noticed that the route calculations are slightly faster (half the time) which says to me they upgraded the processor speed.
 

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Odysseus: this is a bit off the common thread here but earlier on you indicated that you had purchased the updated Zenrin DVD 6.4. Have you received the disc and did it work in your CTS?

I ordered one too but haven't recieved it yet. Zenrin will provide a 100% refund for discs not opened so i thought i check to see if you had any problems with yours. Thanks
 

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I just got it last Friday and it works perfectly. It also comes with a CD to reprogram the infinity Nav which does not apply to our cars. I tossed it in the trash, unopened.

I have a 05 Nav, but I'm not sure of the date. Rumor has it that sometime in mid-05, when they included NavTraffic, the older caddy disks wont work with the newer navs. I don't know if this applies to the Zenrin disks. I'm testing a GPS antenna for Pete (similar to what Shaft did). When I pull the nav to plug it in, I'll double check the date on the side.
 
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