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    I guess I have no choice

    Well at Tire Rack the GY TripleTred has been backordered forever. They had a date of 10/10 at one point but now they're back to having no stock date.

    I guess I have to go with the second choice, the Pirelli PZero Nero M&S. I don't think they're as good of an all around tire but from what I can gather they're in fact a good tire.

    As long as no one has anything terrible to say about them I'm going to order them. I need tires soon.
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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    Have you looked at the Toyo Proxis 4? Wicked looking high performance M+S rated tire and they have a 500 mile buyback offer.

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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    Quote Originally Posted by codewize View Post
    Well at Tire Rack the GY TripleTred has been backordered forever. They had a date of 10/10 at one point but now they're back to having no stock date.

    I guess I have to go with the second choice, the Pirelli PZero Nero M&S. I don't think they're as good of an all around tire but from what I can gather they're in fact a good tire.

    As long as no one has anything terrible to say about them I'm going to order them. I need tires soon.
    Damn sorry to hear that. But if you need tires now what can you do. It is a shame that GY hasn't kept up with this tire. They have a Gold Class tire right there, and they are blowing it. They should offer it in every size known to man, and market it like they were doing about 2 years ago. It just plain sucks. I have no info to offer with the Pirelli's. Did you check Tire Rack to see the reviews? I love that part of thier website. I only look at reviews from cars similar in size and weight as ours though. It means nothing to a 4,000 lb Caddy, that a particular tire performed well, on a 2,500 pocket rocket. Well, I wish you luck with your purchase. After getting them, and going through some snow, post the results. I would love to read it.

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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    I have around 30K on my Pirelli P Zero Nero M & S on my '01 STS. They are still as quiet and comfortable riding as the day I bought them. A little tire noise while cornering close to the limit but that's about it. I leave the pressures around 30 psi and have had excellent wear. Looks like I should get another 25K+ out of them with no problem. They've performed well in the New England rain and snow. The only issue I had was with balance. It took 2 roadforce balances to get them right. Next time I may try a set of Avon Tech M550 A/S. based on the reviews I've read.

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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    No dice on the Toyo Proxis 4. Not available in 235/55/17

    The Avon Tech M550 A/S seems to be a good alternative except in the noise category. I will consider this before ordering though.

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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    Quote Originally Posted by codewize View Post
    No dice on the Toyo Proxis 4. Not available in 235/55/17

    The Avon Tech M550 A/S seems to be a good alternative except in the noise category. I will consider this before ordering though.

    Thanks for the feedback
    According to the Toyo website product code 197370 is a 235/55ZR17 103W.

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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    Hmm OK TireRack didn't have it. I'll take a look around.

    Quote Originally Posted by MashBill View Post
    According to the Toyo website product code 197370 is a 235/55ZR17 103W.
    The only place I can even find the tire for sale is here
    Online Tires

    And they saying it's designed for compacts and sport sedans which leads me to believe that the load rating on the tire probably isn't adequate for a 4300 lb car.
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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    Quote Originally Posted by codewize View Post
    Hmm OK TireRack didn't have it. I'll take a look around.



    The only place I can even find the tire for sale is here
    Online Tires

    And they saying it's designed for compacts and sport sedans which leads me to believe that the load rating on the tire probably isn't adequate for a 4300 lb car.
    Rated Max Load for the Proxes 4 is 1929 lbs, the ContiPremierContact and Pirelli P-Zero Nero is 1653 lbs., the GY TripleTred is 1707, so it shouldn't be a problem.

    Besides, I thought the DTS was a sport sedan . Oh no, I'm mistaken, it EATS SPORT SEDANS

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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    LOL Nice one. Thanks for the research. I would say that from those numbers you're correct. I wonder why Toyo says that.

    I will say the the Pirelli is down to $78. I may go that way at this point just to save some coin. How are the Toyo's in the snow? Rain?
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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    OK well since the Tripletreds can't be had for another few ions or so here are the 3 contenders. I hear so many mixed reports about all of these I just have to keep pushing this.


    Avon Tech M550 A/S at $115 ea 360 AA A

    Pirelli PZero Nero M&S at $79 ea 400 A A

    Goodyear Eagle ResponsEdge at $133 ea 440 A A


    Now I'm not trying to be cheap here but for the money the Pirelli seems like the best buy.


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    Re: I guess I have no choice

    i had the pzero's on an audi a while back, it only saw snow once, but they did get a decent workout in heavy rains. at $80/per I think you will be totally satisfied; as i recall it was a great all around tire; and the fact that i think i got somewhere close to 40k out of them wasn't bad either.

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