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    1995 sedan deville Passive vs Gas charged rear strut conversion

    So I now have 2 of the 1995 sedan deville. I replaced the rear strut in one with the Monroe gas charged conversion struts. Then I bought the other one with the Passive and spring style already loaded in. I've found that the gas charged struts ride a bit more rigid, but support a lot more weight and the passive style ride more smooth, but sink down faster. What are others experience with conversion kits and where do I find that dang relay for the Ride Control message?

    Thanks

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    Re: 1995 sedan deville Passive vs Gas charged rear strut conversion

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghinamon View Post
    So I now have 2 of the 1995 sedan deville. I replaced the rear strut in one with the Monroe gas charged conversion struts. Then I bought the other one with the Passive and spring style already loaded in. I've found that the gas charged struts ride a bit more rigid, but support a lot more weight and the passive style ride more smooth, but sink down faster. What are others experience with conversion kits and where do I find that dang relay for the Ride Control message?

    Thanks
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    What are others experience with conversion kits

    ALL CONVERSION KITS SUCK -

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    you are mixing - and confusing the terms used to describe the rear shocks -

    ACTIVE vs PASSIVE -

    ACTIVE shocks have an adjustable orifice -
    that can change the shock from soft to firm -

    PASSIVE shocks have a fixed orifice -
    and are not adjustable -

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    ALL our Cadillacs came with ELC systems -
    Electronic Level Control systems -

    Cadillac uses fairly weak springs -
    just strong enough to support the EMPTY weight of the car -
    this is what gives us that "Cadillac-ride" we all demand -

    the ELC system includes special oil-filled rear shocks -
    that incorporate air bladders -
    designed to raise the rear body of the car - when inflated -
    to compensate for varying loads in the trunk or rear seat -

    these "air-bladder-shocks" are available in either ACTIVE or PASSIVE models -

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    rear "conversion shocks" are regular oil-filled shocks -
    that incorporate a very stiff coil spring wrapped around it -
    they are a HORRIBLE replacement for the air-bladder type shocks -

    the car never rides at the correct level -
    without a load in the trunk or back seat -
    the car will ride too high in the rear -

    with a load in the trunk or back seat -
    the car will ride too low in the rear -

    they ride VERY hard - and they are often noisy -

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    gas-charged shocks have a low-pressure nitrogen charge in the oil chamber -
    the ONLY reason for this is to -
    help prevent bubbles from forming in the oil during heavy use -

    these are NOT "conversion shocks" -
    they are regular - plain shocks -
    NEVER used on the rear of a Cadillac -

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    the Monroe 40046 would be the CORRECT replacement shock for your Deville -
    $111.71 - each - with free shipping -
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    if the ELC system is still intact -
    the Monroe 40046 is a direct-fit replacement -

    if the ELC system is NOT working properly -
    you could install the Monroe AK29 - Manual-Fill-Kit -
    for an additional $9 -

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    where do I find that dang relay for the Ride Control message?

    there is no relay -
    you must buy one -
    and install it yourself -

    if you are asking where to PURCHASE a relay -
    any auto parts store should have one -

    if you are asking where to INSTALL the relay -
    you tap into existing wires in the trunk -
    at the back of the rear seat -

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